Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 25th May 2012 14:55 UTC
General Unix James Hague: "But all the little bits of complexity, all those cases where indecision caused one option that probably wasn't even needed in the first place to be replaced by two options, all those bad choices that were never remedied for fear of someone somewhere having to change a line of code... They slowly accreted until it all got out of control, and we got comfortable with systems that were impossible to understand." Counterpoint by John Cook: "Some of the growth in complexity is understandable. It's a lot easier to maintain an orthogonal design when your software isn't being used. Software that gets used becomes less orthogonal and develops diagonal shortcuts." If there's ever been a system in dire need of a complete redesign, it's UNIX and its derivatives. A mess doesn't even begin to describe it (for those already frantically reaching for the comment button, note that this applies to other systems as well).
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UltraZelda64
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2006-12-05

I remember my first experience with Unix, back before I had access to the internet. I had to get a book just to figure out what the goddamn 'help' command was. That is how f**ked up and completely counter-intuitive Unix is.

I know some people will defend Unix to the death, but I hate it. Just because something is powerful doesn't excuse it from being a pain in the ass to deal with. (C/C++ also comes to mind here.)

Well go use Singularity or something then... then you'll have no UNIX *and* no C/C++.

Edited 2012-05-25 21:30 UTC

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Well go use Singularity or something then... then you'll have no UNIX *and* no C/C++.


This is actually what is so important in the C and UNIX relationship.

UNIX success was partially due to the portability offered by C, and C's became sucessfull, because UNIX took over universities.

If this integration was not so strong, they would had failed, most likely.

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