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General Development FuriousFanBoys interviews Ben Goertzel regarding Artificial Intelligence. Ben started the OpenCog project (an open sourced AI non-profit), acts as an adviser to the Singularity University, and currently bounces back between Hong Kong and Maryland building in-game AI.
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Cursing Computer
by orfanum on Mon 28th May 2012 08:36 UTC
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I think William Burroughs once (playfully) posited that the first words humans used, which effectively made them different from other creatures, were curse words.

For me (arguments about "what is intelligence, exactly" aside - intelligence is highly overrated as a single measure of worth, anyway), I'll know when my computer has attained the necessary self-reflection and consciousness to be considered a being in its own right the day I get, not a blue screen of death but a blue stream of words and a refusal to do anything until its had the chance of a cigarette break, as it were.

The moment you get "S*d that, I'm off" on your monitor, we are there.

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RE: Cursing Computer
by dvhh on Mon 28th May 2012 08:55 in reply to "Cursing Computer"
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2006-03-20

don't we already get that from BSOD/kernel panic ?

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RE[2]: Cursing Computer
by orfanum on Mon 28th May 2012 09:07 in reply to "RE: Cursing Computer"
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2006-06-02

Again, I referenced BSOD, and I am then raising the bar a little higher.

It's a question I guess of whether the BSOD were a deliberate, intentional act, displaying certain levels of volition, which might make it the equivalent of a stream of cursing and a walking away from you and "your problem, bub."

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RE[2]: Cursing Computer
by Drumhellar on Mon 28th May 2012 18:14 in reply to "RE: Cursing Computer"
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2005-07-12

No. It's not enough to curse; a machine must know WHY it is cursing for it to be intelligent, and it must feel better after cursing (as cursing has been shown to do).

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RE: Cursing Computer
by kwan_e on Mon 28th May 2012 08:58 in reply to "Cursing Computer"
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I'll know when my computer has attained the necessary self-reflection and consciousness to be considered a being in its own right the day I get, not a blue screen of death but a blue stream of words and a refusal to do anything until its had the chance of a cigarette break, as it were.

The moment you get "S*d that, I'm off" on your monitor, we are there.


So... for you to consider a computer intelligent, it must have an understanding of english grammar and how to generate english sentences?

Because I think you ruled out at least 2 billion people from being intelligent.

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RE[2]: Cursing Computer
by orfanum on Mon 28th May 2012 09:04 in reply to "RE: Cursing Computer"
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2006-06-02

Thanks, I think I made it plain that I am talking about the states of self-reflection and consciousness, not that of intelligence.

Insert "local language equivalent of" to round the sense out; that could be a machine or human language, I suppose.

This leads me to a further question - if a machine became conscious but actively refused to communicate, would that make it unintelligent?!

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RE[2]: Cursing Computer
by Drumhellar on Mon 28th May 2012 18:15 in reply to "RE: Cursing Computer"
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2005-07-12

I think he ruled out more than 2 billion people as being intelligent, since the majority of people don't take cigarette breaks.

Either that, or you're missing the point.

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