Linked by Eugenia Loli on Mon 28th May 2012 03:53 UTC
General Development FuriousFanBoys interviews Ben Goertzel regarding Artificial Intelligence. Ben started the OpenCog project (an open sourced AI non-profit), acts as an adviser to the Singularity University, and currently bounces back between Hong Kong and Maryland building in-game AI.
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RE[2]: Cursing Computer
by orfanum on Mon 28th May 2012 09:04 UTC in reply to "RE: Cursing Computer"
orfanum
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2006-06-02

Thanks, I think I made it plain that I am talking about the states of self-reflection and consciousness, not that of intelligence.

Insert "local language equivalent of" to round the sense out; that could be a machine or human language, I suppose.

This leads me to a further question - if a machine became conscious but actively refused to communicate, would that make it unintelligent?!

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RE[3]: Cursing Computer
by kwan_e on Mon 28th May 2012 09:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Cursing Computer"
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Thanks, I think I made it plain that I am talking about the states of self-reflection and consciousness, not that of intelligence.


If you read earlier, I myself also made the distinction between consciousness and intelligence.

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RE[4]: Cursing Computer
by orfanum on Mon 28th May 2012 09:40 in reply to "RE[3]: Cursing Computer"
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2006-06-02

Then frankly I do not know why you reintroduced 'intelligence", seemingly confusing the two notions (again) ;) .

I was not explicitly suggesting that the machine's reponse should be in English, as I hope I have subsequently made clear; I am discussing this subject in a predominantly and implicitly English-language forum, so I think your point, while it has some merit as such, is not entirely derived from the substance of the argument I was making, which is: where's the sense of willed, self-known action?

By the way, going back to that particular concept, on what grounds do you think that machines have in actuality achieved intelligence? Don't you mean merely that they have speed and efficiency of calculation on their side? Please explain.

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RE[3]: Cursing Computer
by zima on Mon 28th May 2012 10:03 in reply to "RE[2]: Cursing Computer"
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2005-07-06

This leads me to a further question - if a machine became conscious but actively refused to communicate, would that make it unintelligent?!

I believe one of the proposed solutions to Fermi paradox is "because they're too smart to contact us"

(generally, considering traditional human conduct when confronted with something new, different, poorly understood - refusal of communication to the point of concealing its existence as long as possible ...would be probably the most adaptive, most intelligent approach for any machine that "became conscious")

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RE[4]: Cursing Computer
by orfanum on Mon 28th May 2012 10:23 in reply to "RE[3]: Cursing Computer"
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2006-06-02

Thanks very much. I have learned something today. ;)

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