Linked by Eugenia Loli on Mon 28th May 2012 03:53 UTC
General Development FuriousFanBoys interviews Ben Goertzel regarding Artificial Intelligence. Ben started the OpenCog project (an open sourced AI non-profit), acts as an adviser to the Singularity University, and currently bounces back between Hong Kong and Maryland building in-game AI.
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RE[2]: Cursing Computer
by Drumhellar on Mon 28th May 2012 18:15 UTC in reply to "RE: Cursing Computer"
Drumhellar
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2005-07-12

I think he ruled out more than 2 billion people as being intelligent, since the majority of people don't take cigarette breaks.

Either that, or you're missing the point.

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RE[3]: Cursing Computer
by kwan_e on Mon 28th May 2012 23:18 in reply to "RE[2]: Cursing Computer"
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2007-02-18

I think he ruled out more than 2 billion people as being intelligent, since the majority of people don't take cigarette breaks.

Either that, or you're missing the point.


No, you two are missing the wider point. You two make the error that a computer system must necessarily behave in a human recognizable manner to be considered conscious. If you make that argument, then you can similarly posit a situation where an advanced alien race can consider us not-conscious because we don't meet their criteria.

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RE[4]: Cursing Computer
by Drumhellar on Tue 29th May 2012 00:26 in reply to "RE[3]: Cursing Computer"
Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

1. Yes. You are definitely missing the point of his comment. But, I'll bite.

2. You are suggesting that I shouldn't rule out something that is both a) unknowable and b) untestable, when it is well known that scientific knowledge (which an AI made by humans certainly falls under) progresses by the testability of known and knowable quantities. Also, his comment was to the original article, which is also taking a far more pragmatic view than making comparisons to aliens we'll never meet.

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