Linked by Eugenia Loli on Mon 28th May 2012 03:53 UTC
General Development FuriousFanBoys interviews Ben Goertzel regarding Artificial Intelligence. Ben started the OpenCog project (an open sourced AI non-profit), acts as an adviser to the Singularity University, and currently bounces back between Hong Kong and Maryland building in-game AI.
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RE[5]: Memetics
by Drumhellar on Mon 28th May 2012 19:37 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Memetics"
Drumhellar
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2005-07-12

I hate modern philosophers, especially when they use degrees in science to add credibility to what are essentially non-scientific premises. The concept of "free will" isn't something born out of science; it is something born out of philosophy. In this regard, it matters not that Sam Harris is a neuroscientist. He could be a janitor, and be equally prepared to answer the question.

Edited 2012-05-28 19:40 UTC

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RE[6]: Memetics
by kwan_e on Mon 28th May 2012 23:31 in reply to "RE[5]: Memetics"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

I hate modern philosophers, especially when they use degrees in science to add credibility to what are essentially non-scientific premises. The concept of "free will" isn't something born out of science; it is something born out of philosophy. In this regard, it matters not that Sam Harris is a neuroscientist. He could be a janitor, and be equally prepared to answer the question.


Ah, so you subscribe to the whole NOMA nonsense? That some things just can't be answered by science. Why? BECAUSE. Why? BECAUSE WE SAY YOU CAN'T ANSWER IT WITH SCIENCE. WE WON'T ALLOW YOU.

Here's something to think about, if we allow the principle of non-overlapping magisteria, we are basically saying: for those questions we have yet to answer scientifically, we can basically make up any shit we want to answer it.

Like it or not, whether the concept of "free will" is a purely philosophical matter or not, the FACT is that neuroscientists can predict choices that people make seconds before they make them. Like it or not, that fact drags the question of free will at least partly into the magisteria of science. These are scientifically reproducible experiments and it really shows what you are that you claim that it is just an attempt to use a degree to add credibility to claims.

Sam Harris could be a janitor. It still won't override that neuroscientifc fact.

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RE[7]: Memetics
by Drumhellar on Tue 29th May 2012 01:27 in reply to "RE[6]: Memetics"
Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

Here's something to think about, if we allow the principle of non-overlapping magisteria, we are basically saying:


Magisteria?

I'm done.

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