Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 28th May 2012 19:25 UTC
In the News This topic comes up quite a lot on technology websites, but I generally try to steer clear from it as much as possible, since I'm not the one to talk about it (you know, with me being a man and all that), however, I feel it might be a good idea to just get my opinion out there and be done with it. The topic of women in IT is a hot-button issue, so let me just go out guns blazing: assuming women need special treatment, help, protection, and affirmative action is just as insulting and degrading as outright claiming women have no place in IT - maybe even more so.
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You fucking moron.
by blahbl4hblah on Mon 28th May 2012 21:52 UTC
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Member since:
2011-05-29

Affirmative action doesn't mean that women...or any other minority...aren't as capable and need help. IT MEANS THAT THERE IS A HISTORICAL WRONG THAT REQUIRES STRUCTURAL CHANGE TO AFFECT A REDRESS.

In this case no one but the federal government could have done this because local government was part of the problem...Without the fed stepping in and using the weight of its own purchasing power to force the issue nothing would have changed.

The gains from the feminist and civil rights movements were really very important. The fact that you don't understand them is saddening. There is more to this issue than you weird attempt at painting it in the typical "anti-man bias" that is usually reserved for reactionary angry white man bullshit. Let me guess, you probably also think that "reverse racism" is real as well.

I think this was the article that made me finally decide that the occasional gem about...you know...operating systems...isn't worth the utter garbage that makes up the rest of it.

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RE: You fucking moron.
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 28th May 2012 22:17 in reply to "You fucking moron."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

The gains from the feminist and civil rights movements were really very important. The fact that you don't understand them is saddening. There is more to this issue than you weird attempt at painting it in the typical "anti-man bias" that is usually reserved for reactionary angry white man bullshit. Let me guess, you probably also think that "reverse racism" is real as well.


...what?

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RE: You fucking moron.
by M.Onty on Mon 28th May 2012 22:25 in reply to "You fucking moron."
M.Onty Member since:
2009-10-23

You fucking moron.


I'd say positive discrimination is a debatable point where its possible to make a strong, considered case either for or against. Yet you start your case with "you fucking moron".

Why bother writing the rest of the comment? Who do you think is going to be prepared to agree with you after reading past the title?

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RE: You [explitive deleted]
by jerryk on Mon 28th May 2012 22:41 in reply to "You fucking moron."
jerryk Member since:
2010-09-24

When you resort to name-calling, it is a flag to most people that you have no argument. Furthermore, your vulgarity indicates you might have forgotten a sentence in the "Implicit trust" section of this website ("We like to think we can trust our readers to behave nicely.")

Affirmative Action is a PC term for reverse discrimination. It is just as wrong as the original discrimination and it does nothing to solve the original problem. Like several posters have said, it creates resentment for a lot of people.

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RE: You fucking moron.
by chmeee on Tue 29th May 2012 15:25 in reply to "You fucking moron."
chmeee Member since:
2006-01-10

The correct solution to this type of problem is NEVER to go to the extreme opposite, it is to eliminate the problem. You don't solve a problem by creating another problem.

"Reverse discrimination" is still discrimination. If one form of discrimination is intolerable, then all forms must be.

Any form of discrimination breeds entitlement. Nobody is entitled to anything, you must work for your success. "Success" handed to you is not success at all.

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