Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 28th May 2012 19:25 UTC
In the News This topic comes up quite a lot on technology websites, but I generally try to steer clear from it as much as possible, since I'm not the one to talk about it (you know, with me being a man and all that), however, I feel it might be a good idea to just get my opinion out there and be done with it. The topic of women in IT is a hot-button issue, so let me just go out guns blazing: assuming women need special treatment, help, protection, and affirmative action is just as insulting and degrading as outright claiming women have no place in IT - maybe even more so.
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Merits
by Alfman on Tue 29th May 2012 00:54 UTC
Alfman
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2011-01-28

"People should be judged on their merits; their skills, qualifications, character, work ethic, track record, the work they produce, and so on."

Well there lies the root of the problem. Women want to be judged on merit, but all too frequently that's not how business or even life works, even for men. If the world were run as a meritocracy, the world would be a completely different place, indeed one where women would have much more prominent roles. But it's not, and affirmative action won't do anything to fix the core issues surrounding the lack of equal opportunity.

How does one fix a cultural phenomenon? I don't know.

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RE: Merits
by l3v1 on Tue 29th May 2012 06:12 in reply to "Merits"
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2005-07-06

If the world were run as a meritocracy, the world would be a completely different place, indeed one where women would have much more prominent roles.


Well, nicely implying that in a meritocracy women would rule ;) I find that funny and baseless, just as baseless as broadly stating that women are negatively discriminated (when sometimes just the opposite is true). I'm all against negative discrimination, just as I am against over-the-edge positive discrimination (which isn't that rare either), but statements like the above don't help either case.

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RE[2]: Merits
by Alfman on Tue 29th May 2012 06:21 in reply to "RE: Merits"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

l3v1,

"Well, nicely implying that in a meritocracy women would rule ;) "

At first I see the wink, so I think your only kidding...ok fine.

"I find that funny and baseless"

But then what's this about? I said "women would have much more prominent roles", how do you feel that's baseless?

I didn't write that women would rule in a meritocracy - you added that. But if it turned out they did rule in a meritocracy, then perhaps they'd merit it after all, don't you think? ;)

Edited 2012-05-29 06:27 UTC

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