Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 28th May 2012 19:25 UTC
In the News This topic comes up quite a lot on technology websites, but I generally try to steer clear from it as much as possible, since I'm not the one to talk about it (you know, with me being a man and all that), however, I feel it might be a good idea to just get my opinion out there and be done with it. The topic of women in IT is a hot-button issue, so let me just go out guns blazing: assuming women need special treatment, help, protection, and affirmative action is just as insulting and degrading as outright claiming women have no place in IT - maybe even more so.
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by mjg59 on Tue 29th May 2012 02:39 UTC
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The reason this article is offensive nonsense isn't because you're saying something controversial. It's because you're saying something uninformed. You make multiple claims about human nature, the basis of positive discrimination policies and how women feel about discrimination in the computing industry. You back none of this up. It's as meaningless as you presenting an article on your feelings about the rise of Islam in Indonesian culture in the 15th century - you know nothing about this topic, and as a result your conclusions provide no insight whatsoever.

Presenting controversial opinions is easy - it's just a matter of disagreeing with what everyone else is saying. But unless you actually have an argument based on reality rather than whatever random thoughts fill your head when you think about something, you're adding precisely nothing to the discussion. Come back when you're actually able to present some facts rather than ill-informed opinion.

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RE: Sigh.
by satsujinka on Tue 29th May 2012 04:56 in reply to "Sigh."
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If you don't like what Thom said, then all you have to do is disprove his opinion.
1. Affirmative Action doesn't cause businesses to choose less skilled employees from applicants.

A few others you should probably prove:
2. Affirmative Action results in more friendly workplaces for the minority in question.
3. That the minority in question isn't given cause to doubt that their abilities are the reason that they were hired.

If you can't prove those (or disprove their inverse) then you've failed to give any valid reason for the existence of affirmative action and are instead espousing nothing more than discrimination.

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