Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 28th May 2012 23:32 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption "A massive, highly sophisticated piece of malware has been newly found infecting systems in Iran and elsewhere and is believed to be part of a well-coordinated, ongoing, state-run cyberespionage operation. The malware, discovered by Russia-based anti-virus firm Kaspersky Lab, is an espionage toolkit that has been infecting targeted systems in Iran, Lebanon, Syria, Sudan, the Israeli Occupied Territories and other countries in the Middle East and North Africa for at least two years. Dubbed 'Flame' by Kaspersky, the malicious code dwarfs Stuxnet in size." Since I'm not particularly well-versed in the subject, maybe someone can answer this question for me: if country A creates a malware infection like this to spy on and/or harm computers in country B, can it be construed as an act of war under existing international law?
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Israel
by gan17 on Tue 29th May 2012 02:46 UTC
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Your article mentions Israeli Occupied Territories specifically. That region plus all (or most) of the other affected countries seem to be anti-Israel, or at least have factions (ie Hamas) that are.

So it's probably a no-brainer that the malware was created and deployed by the Israelis, unless of course the article (and Kapersky) wants to misdirect everyone.

Not quite sure whether it's considered an act of cyber-warfare or cyber-terrorism. Depends on which side of the fence you sit. Some would call it a form of intelligence-gathering or whatever.

Better than hearing news of civilian casualties, that's for sure.... though this might eventually lead to that anyway.

Anyhooz, Mossad/CIA forces are gonna come and kill me now, so it's been good knowing y'all.

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RE: Israel
by snfgd on Tue 29th May 2012 06:15 in reply to "Israel"
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2012-04-23

Your article mentions Israeli Occupied Territories specifically. That region plus all (or most) of the other affected countries seem to be anti-Israel, or at least have factions (ie Hamas) that are.

So it's probably a no-brainer that the malware was created and deployed by the Israelis...


Well jeez, that's all the evidence I need. It must have been Israel. :-P

If the worm's distribution is intentional (which it may not be) it seems to be targeting places where Islamism is most influential. Plenty of nations/regimes/organisation are opposed to Islamism, and it could be any one of them.

The worm doesn't look very professional from what I can tell, so personally I would be pointing fingers at one of the Arab dictatorships before Israel. But really, it's impossible to tell at this point. And Kaspersky isn't known for giving the most reliable reports anyway.

Edited 2012-05-29 06:16 UTC

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RE[2]: Israel
by Oren156b on Tue 29th May 2012 10:15 in reply to "RE: Israel"
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2012-05-29

Netanyahu's deputy pretty much admits that Israel is behind this:

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/netanyahu-deputy-hint...

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