Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 29th May 2012 12:43 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Two weeks ago, Steve Wozniak made a public call for Apple to open its platforms for those who wish to tinker, tweak and innovate with their internals. EFF supports Wozniak's position: while Apple's products have many virtues, they are marred by an ugly set of restrictions on what users and programmers can do with them. This is most especially true of iOS, though other Apple products sometimes suffer in the same way. In this article we will delve into the kinds of restrictions that Apple, phone companies, and Microsoft have been imposing on mobile computers; the excuses these companies make when they impose these restrictions; the dangers this is creating for open innovation; why Apple in particular should lead the way in fixing this mess. We also propose a bill of rights that need to be secured for people who are purchasing smartphones and other pocket computers."
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RE[3]: Comment by ilovebeer
by Alfman on Wed 30th May 2012 02:49 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ilovebeer"
Alfman
Member since:
2011-01-28

"It seems you didn't pay attention. I was clearly talking about people who whine whine whine but don't participate in being innovative. IE: People who are all talk and no walk."

Well that's not what you initially said, but ok.

"But that fact does not stop 'you' from developing completely open platforms and software. Instead 'your' time appears better spent complaining rather than doing."

That's view is completely ignorant of what's going on. Software developers write software, hence our title. Most of us don't build or sell hardware. Very few of us have the means to do so. We write software for users and consumers to use on their hardware. If we cannot reach users any longer because more and more of them are no longer at liberty to install our software, then innovation will become constricted and stagnant. You'd have to be an idiot not to see it. What is your justification in thinking that device lockdowns will hurt only non-innovative software developers as opposed to all software developers?

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RE[4]: Comment by ilovebeer
by ilovebeer on Thu 31st May 2012 02:51 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by ilovebeer"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

"But that fact does not stop 'you' from developing completely open platforms and software. Instead 'your' time appears better spent complaining rather than doing."

That's view is completely ignorant of what's going on. Software developers write software, hence our title. Most of us don't build or sell hardware. Very few of us have the means to do so. We write software for users and consumers to use on their hardware. If we cannot reach users any longer because more and more of them are no longer at liberty to install our software, then innovation will become constricted and stagnant.

That only applies to people who *choose* to develop on closed systems, and aren't in compliance the requirements. You want to play the game but don't want to follow the rules. If you don't like the rules you either petition change, find a different game to play, or you deal with it. You can't help people who refuse to acknowledge the truth, ....that they have options.

If you actually want to do something but don't have the means, then you do what countless other people have done. You find others to work with who share your views and are committed, and you find investment. Do what it takes to take the lead and become an example to follow.

You'd have to be an idiot not to see it. What is your justification in thinking that device lockdowns will hurt only non-innovative software developers as opposed to all software developers?

Why are you asking me to justify something I never said?

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RE[5]: Comment by ilovebeer
by Alfman on Thu 31st May 2012 04:29 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by ilovebeer"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

ilovebeer,

"You can't help people who refuse to acknowledge the truth, ....that they have options."

And you cant deny locked hardware is designed to prevent consumers from exercising options and removing their liberty to use their hardware as they see fit. The whole reason for locked hardware to exist is to eliminate options for consumers and remove the threat of competing software markets & products.


"Why are you asking me to justify something I never said?"

Your first post certainly suggested that innovative developers amongst us shouldn't have a problem with locked devices, though god knows why. It's pretty clear all independent software developers are going to be negatively impacted.

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