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These are more matter of debates.
Possibly.
Breast-feeding first : it's a choice, not an obligation. Some mothers do it, and some don't.
I know some people do, some don't. Personally though I hold the view that one should breast-feed if possible.
I've recently heard something about its health benefits for the baby being overestimated (it would only have temporary effects, no long-term effects).
In the short term it protects the child from various kinds of illnesses; whatever viruses the father or mother may carry will eventually wound up their way into the child, too, but thanks to breast-feeding the mother transfers some of the antibodies to the baby, protecting him/her in the process. Atleast I view this as quite a big benefit; a sick child is never a good thing.
Secondly, about the long-term effects: there's more mental long-term effects than physical ones. Physical proximity helps the child feel more secure and aids child's mental development.
I'm pretty sure no one does it for so long here
Almost no one does it here either. Doesn't mean it's right anyways, or that I have to agree with them.
"I'm pretty sure no one does it for so long here"
Almost no one does it here either. Doesn't mean it's right anyways, or that I have to agree with them.
Almost no one does it here either. Doesn't mean it's right anyways, or that I have to agree with them.
It is certainly your right to have your own opinion on those matters, but if you judge people based on standards that are pretty much impossible to meet, you're necessarily going to be fairly disappointed...
More to the point : don't you agree that your earlier analysis of the extent to which men can help with children is somewhat flawed, if it's based on a model of mother behaviour that most mothers do not follow ?
Edited 2012-05-30 17:03 UTC




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Sure, men can do nothing about this part, that's why I said that we have it easier in the beginning and should try harder later to compensate.
These are more matter of debates. Breast-feeding first : it's a choice, not an obligation. Some mothers do it, and some don't. I've recently heard something about its health benefits for the baby being overestimated (it would only have temporary effects, no long-term effects).
And then there is this three years number. I don't have statistics in mind, but this sounds like an oddly large number. I'm pretty sure no one does it for so long here, but I could ask all these young parents around me at work in order to get a better idea. It may be a bit of culture-specific thing (like the "Raubenmutter" stigma in Germany).
Concerning daycare... Here, an option that is often explored is getting help from the grand-parents, if one of them is retired at the time children are born. They are considered more trustworthy than strangers, so maybe one starts to get help from them earlier. But again I don't know how long after birth parents do it, I'd have to ask
And then, as Alfman mentions, there's the issue of money... A couple would really have to be fairly wealthy in order to afford losing half its income for an extended period of time, at the very time where there's an extra mouth to feed. Here, employers are supposed to keep the job contract running and continue paying a salary for about 4 months, but after that you're on your own...
Again, I can have a look around, but I'd be surprised if three years of parental leave is customary around here. That would make most French mothers irresponsible in your view, which is maybe a bit excessive.
Edited 2012-05-30 06:29 UTC