MS blocking boot-to-desktop, Start menu hacks in Windows 8
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 31st May 2012 12:24 UTC
Windows "Microsoft has been furiously ripping out legacy code in Windows 8 that would have enabled third parties to bring back the Start button, Start Menu, and other software bits that could have made this new OS look and work like its predecessor. In fact, I've seen that several well-known UI hacks that worked fine with the Windows 8 Consumer Preview are no longer functional in the coming Release Preview. And those with hopes that Microsoft would allow businesses, at least, to boot directly to the desktop should prepare for disappointment. That feature not only isn't happening, it's being removed from Windows Server 12 (Windows 8's stable mate) as well." When you buy a new machine later this year, you will use Metro, an environment wholly inferior, incomplete, and not at all ready to replace the traditional desktop in any way, shape, or form. Whether you like it or not.
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RE: He just doesn't like Metro
by Radio on Thu 31st May 2012 13:44 UTC in reply to "He just doesn't like Metro"
Radio
Member since:
2009-06-20

A lot of people thought that Vista sucked, and skipped it. However, the changes that people complained about in Vista carried over to the acclaimed Win7; people had time to adjust to those changes, and saw that they were good for us.

Nice spin.

People did not think Vista sucked ; Vista sucked, period.

People acclaimed Win7 not because the poor little things had had time to adapt, but because MS rewrote enough of the PoS named Vista to make it run decently.

The problem here did not lie with the user. It is dishonest to rewrite history that way to put all the blame on shitty users, when they were in fact fed an unpolished turd.

And history repeats itself, with now an unpolished turd with pointy corners.

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mkools Member since:
2005-10-11

Vista only sucked because there was no decent third party driver support but if you run Vista now it's almost the same as Windows 7.

Windows 7 is just Vista second edition, not a new OS.

Windows 8 is gonna suck a whole lot more than Vista did.

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Ultimatebadass Member since:
2006-01-08

Vista only sucked because there was no decent third party driver support but if you run Vista now it's almost the same as Windows 7.


Exactly this. I'm running Vista on my work laptop and windows 7 at home. Hardly see any difference in day to day use.

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No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

Now is a service pack or two later in Vista's life cycle. Have you tried running an unpatched Vista lately? Off the net, of course.

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Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

I don't understand why people think this.

I have been using W8 since February as my primary machine/OS and am loving it. I adapted to the start screen within a week or so and now I don't even think about it/notice it.

My biggest beef is with bugs, which I am hoping they will work out. We'll see how RP does.

[edit]

How I use W8:

I am a software engineer. I also use it for gaming.

Edited 2012-05-31 16:50 UTC

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

People did not think Vista sucked ; Vista sucked, period.


Well, Vista did suck, yes, but that was in the beginning only; there simply were so many drivers missing and Vista was buggy and an insane resource-hog. SP1 fixed a lot of those issues and SP2 improved it some more.

In other words, Vista sucked in the beginning but it doesn't really suck anymore, ergo the comparison is a very poor one.

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Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

And so, my point is still valid: people hated Vista not because "people are whiny crybabies who hate change", but because Vista was bad - at first but not anymore, ok, whatever, that is not the point.

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Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

I agree; I use Vista on my HTPC and it's a much better experience now than it was three years ago. That said, I still find the occasional bug or issue that I wouldn't have if I were using Windows 7, but I prefer to keep that on my main PC alongside Arch.

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Lorin Member since:
2010-04-06

Too many shills on here for sure, I had a coworker who once worked at Microsoft, told me they have an entire department that works all day posting online.

Reply Parent Score: 1