Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 31st May 2012 12:24 UTC
Windows "Microsoft has been furiously ripping out legacy code in Windows 8 that would have enabled third parties to bring back the Start button, Start Menu, and other software bits that could have made this new OS look and work like its predecessor. In fact, I've seen that several well-known UI hacks that worked fine with the Windows 8 Consumer Preview are no longer functional in the coming Release Preview. And those with hopes that Microsoft would allow businesses, at least, to boot directly to the desktop should prepare for disappointment. That feature not only isn't happening, it's being removed from Windows Server 12 (Windows 8's stable mate) as well." When you buy a new machine later this year, you will use Metro, an environment wholly inferior, incomplete, and not at all ready to replace the traditional desktop in any way, shape, or form. Whether you like it or not.
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RE[4]: Forcing Myself
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 31st May 2012 17:23 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Forcing Myself"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Those 15 windows are in what is essentially a virtual operating system instance, but without any 'coherence' mode to integrate those into Metro. In other words, when you inevitably end up in Metro, you can't go straight to the window you want - you first need to switch to the desktop, and then find the window you want.

This is NOT, I repeat, THIS IS NOT the same as Windows 7. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

On top of that, the desktop is on its way out, quite clearly, even though Metro has lightyears to go before it's even 50% as functional as the desktop is now.

Edited 2012-05-31 17:25 UTC

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RE[5]: Forcing Myself
by Tuishimi on Thu 31st May 2012 17:30 in reply to "RE[4]: Forcing Myself"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

Thom. You hit W-key, click the app you want, it starts and gets focus.

Start menu, you click the app you want, it starts, it gets focus.

I really must be missing something to your point. What is it you are doing that is so special, so customized that it requires the start menu to function properly? Once in the desktop it is the same.

Help me understand how I am wrong/missing your point.

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RE[6]: Forcing Myself
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 31st May 2012 17:34 in reply to "RE[5]: Forcing Myself"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I don't work with applications. I work with documents. I don't want to switch to Word - I want to switch to document_to_translate.docx. Or document_to_translate.NL.docx. Or termlist.xlsx. Or termlist_UPDATED.xlsx.

You're pretending that Metro is a replacement for the Start menu. It isn't. It's a replacement for the Explorer shell - with the old Explorer shell turned into an isolated application, with ZERO integration with Metro - i.e., you can't properly manage your desktop applications from within Metro. Metro does nothing but add additional clicks and hoop-jumping to make things more complicated.

Like I said - I like Metro, just not when I need to do something more complex than check Twitter or the weather.

Edited 2012-05-31 17:36 UTC

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RE[5]: Forcing Myself
by MollyC on Fri 1st Jun 2012 04:41 in reply to "RE[4]: Forcing Myself"
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

Those 15 windows are in what is essentially a virtual operating system instance, but without any 'coherence' mode to integrate those into Metro. In other words, when you inevitably end up in Metro, you can't go straight to the window you want - you first need to switch to the desktop, and then find the window you want.


Someone commented in your "Whats wrong with Win8" piece that alt-tab allows one to go directly to a particular window within the desktop, even from metro. So you don't have to first switch to the desktop, then switch to the desired window within the desktop.

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