Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 31st May 2012 21:25 UTC
Windows The Windows 8 release Preview has been released, so go out and get it, test it, and wax lyrically, or complain loudly. I'm installing it as we speak, so no word, thoughts, or impressions from me yet. Like it or hate it, at least have fun, folks.
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RE[2]: Waste of plastic.
by hoak on Fri 1st Jun 2012 01:38 UTC in reply to "RE: Waste of plastic."
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Woah-hoho Trollholio, how about at least giving UZ64 an opportunity to respond before going to the bottom of the barrel with petty personalized insults that make you look more like an astroturfing shill then offering reasonable objections... While I don't personally find any OS warrants 'hate', there are several 'features' of Windows 8 that are far from 'benefits' and are not a move forward in terms of progress making DOS an apt comparison.

The fact UI forces you to use components of the Metro interface that will not allow you to multi-task/multi-window while accessing those 'features' of the OS will be a complete deal-breaker and failure of epic scale in many production environments. Of course for as a passive interface trash/to for 'consumption' and push marketing Windows 8 us a marvel at selling bullshit to the willfully blind.

Edited 2012-06-01 01:39 UTC

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RE[3]: Waste of plastic.
by WereCatf on Fri 1st Jun 2012 01:46 in reply to "RE[2]: Waste of plastic."
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that make you look more like an astroturfing shill

You clearly haven't seen any of the comments where I've expressed my dislike for Windows 8 and especially Metro. I still object to such blatant bashing-posts such as UZ64's one.

I actually have to wonder who I even could be a shill for when I've clearly said multiple times that I don't really have much experience with OSX and thus won't comment on it, that I really like Windows 7 as my desktop but I really dislike Metro, and that I use Linux on a daily basis but at the same time criticize Linux distributions and F/OSS software for all their shortcomings.

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RE[4]: Waste of plastic.
by UltraZelda64 on Fri 1st Jun 2012 07:43 in reply to "RE[3]: Waste of plastic."
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You clearly haven't seen any of the comments where I've expressed my dislike for Windows 8 and especially Metro. I still object to such blatant bashing-posts such as UZ64's one.

Oh, well then... you must know what I'm talking about? So what's the problem? And by the way, the Windows 8 Consumer Preview and the Windows 8 Release Preview are *not* the same thing. One was released in February, which I tried and hated, and the other just recently, which I refuse to waste more time and plastic on. ;)

And in response to BluenoseJake, yeah, I agree... "a few hours" is not much. I know... I wanted to play around more with it... but that was before I got it installed. When using it, I realized just how bad it was and just couldn't stand to use it very long.

My experience with that wretched Start screen and the lack of a Start menu on the traditional desktop, combined with the pure shittiness of traditional keyboard-and-mouse control on a desktop setup in Metro (face it: ITS GUI BELONGS ON A PORTABLE TOUCHSCREEN DEVICE), plus Microsoft forcing you to create an online account to download these supposedly amazing Metro "apps" and pushing a cloud-type setup is... just something I refuse to f--k with.

They're forcing us to create Windows "cloud" accounts just to install these supposedly amazing Metro "apps", while at the same time trying to force us out of the traditional desktop by making its use as inconvenient and unpleasant as possible. They're furthermore blocking ALL other operating systems out of any ARM-based Windows 8 machines using so-called "trusted computing" (I prefer the FSF's term for the acronym, it's more accurate...) unless they pay up like Red Hat/Fedora.

They're also providing a traditional Windows/desktop version of Internet Explorer, while blocking other companies from releasing traditional desktop versions of their browsers. They're removing the ability to develop traditional desktop applications from the basic version of, eh, Visual Basic.

But if you want to argue that I'm bitching about the company's practices instead of the OS, all I have to say is: Metro is absolute SHIT unless you're using a tablet or phone (ie. touchscreen), and Microsoft is making the Windows desktop as inconvenient as possible to use to force people away from it. The end result is a shitty operating system.

Windows 95... nice.
Windows 98... even better.
Windows Me... absolute shit.
Windows XP... decent, but relatively shitty until SP2.
Windows Vista... absolute shit.
Windows 7... decent; surprising recovery from the the preceding atrocity.
Windows 8... absolute shit, which has gone so far off the deep end that it probably can't be saved.

Edited 2012-06-01 07:56 UTC

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