Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 31st May 2012 21:41 UTC
Legal And thus, it ends. Despite a never-ending stream of doom and gloom from Oracle/Microsoft-funded 'pundits' regarding Google and Android (six hundred billion trillion gazillion eurodollars in damages!!1!), judge Alsup has just squashed all of Oracle's chances with a ruling that is good news for those of us who truly care about this wonderful industry: APIs are not copyrightable. Alsup: "To accept Oracle's claim would be to allow anyone to copyright one version of code to carry out a system of commands and thereby bar all others from writing their own different versions to carry out all or part of the same commands. No holding has ever endorsed such a sweeping proposition." Supreme Court, Ellison?
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RE[4]: Comment by shmerl
by TechGeek on Fri 1st Jun 2012 02:56 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by shmerl"
TechGeek
Member since:
2006-01-14

The fragmentation of Java and issue of incompatible implementation are valid critiques of Android. But what does it have to do with the idea that APIs shouldn't be copyrightable? Both are right.


According to Oracle's own engineers, Android is not derived from Java. Therefore there can be no fragmentation.

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RE[5]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Fri 1st Jun 2012 03:07 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by shmerl"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Looking at that from usability perspective - isn't it ridiculous that on supposedly Java (as in Dalvik) based Android you can't run Java (as in JVM) programs? Compatibility is not a bad thing. There were probably technical reasons why Google went with Dalvik (supposedly performance advantage). But in practice it did cause a rift.

Edited 2012-06-01 03:08 UTC

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RE[6]: Comment by shmerl
by kwan_e on Fri 1st Jun 2012 05:39 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by shmerl"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

Looking at that from usability perspective - isn't it ridiculous that on supposedly Java (as in Dalvik) based Android you can't run Java (as in JVM) programs?


According to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_(software)

"Programs are commonly written in Java and compiled to bytecode. They are then converted from Java Virtual Machine-compatible .class files to Dalvik-compatible .dex (Dalvik Executable) files before installation on a device."

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RE[6]: Comment by shmerl
by Radio on Fri 1st Jun 2012 05:50 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by shmerl"
Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

Java programs wouldn't have been compatible anyway. The "write once, run everywhere" motto is a fat joke, far bigger than "don't be evil".

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