Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 1st Jun 2012 22:53 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption "Mr. Obama decided to accelerate the attacks - begun in the Bush administration and code-named Olympic Games - even after an element of the program accidentally became public in the summer of 2010 because of a programming error that allowed it to escape Iran's Natanz plant and sent it around the world on the Internet. Computer security experts who began studying the worm, which had been developed by the United States and Israel, gave it a name: Stuxnet." And we're letting these people have unmanned drones. Seems legit.
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RE[3]: Comment by pashar
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 2nd Jun 2012 11:46 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by pashar"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

I do not support either side in this endless bloodshed, but seeing one side as evil and the other as good makes this whole argument rather silly.


Bingo.

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RE[4]: Comment by pashar
by dsmogor on Sat 2nd Jun 2012 13:14 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by pashar"
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

yea. except that this is exactly the stance that big media and opinion shapers create and expect from the masses: equate both sides, conclude they are worth themselves and treat it as an easy excuse for loosing interest in what happens around you.

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RE[5]: Comment by pashar
by zima on Wed 6th Jun 2012 02:04 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by pashar"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

So, you're saying that the big media wants their audience to loose interest in... major and "reliable" source of news? (hence also source of ad or subscriptions revenue)

Edited 2012-06-06 02:04 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by pashar
by pashar on Sat 2nd Jun 2012 15:00 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by pashar"
pashar Member since:
2006-07-12

Another good example of hypocrisy. By denying one side's right to defend itself, you definitely support other side.

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RE[5]: Comment by pashar
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 2nd Jun 2012 16:06 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by pashar"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Another good example of hypocrisy. By denying one side's right to defend itself, you definitely support other side.


I'm going to walk straight up to your house, backed by the biggest military in the world, and claim that, based on an old book thousands od years old, your house and land are supposed to belong to me. Then I'm going to remove you from your own premises, and force you to live a life with less rights than people of my own blood.

Let's see how you react then.

Both sides in this conflict are wrong, because none of them are right. If it were up to me, we'd stop all financial, military, and material aid to the entirety of the region, cut all diplomatic ties, and let them sort out their own mess. Not a single dime of my tax money should go to those shitholes. I want Dutch money to go to people who deserve it - not to governments who only car about war, death, and destruction, no matter what imaginary father figure they claim is on their side. Israel, Iran, whatever - they're all the same to me.

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