Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 3rd Jun 2012 22:04 UTC
Windows So, I've been using the Windows 8 Release Preview since it came out, almost exclusively (except for work, since I'm obviously not going to rely on unfinished and untested software for that). I already knew I could get into Metro on my 11.6" ZenBook, but on my 24" desktop, things aren't looking as rosy. Here's an illustrated guide of the most pressing issues I run into, and five suggestions to address them. Instead of just complaining, let's get constructive.
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RE: Comment by gmlongo
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 3rd Jun 2012 22:22 UTC in reply to "Comment by gmlongo"
Thom_Holwerda
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2005-06-29

Yes, because reading 1920pix width is not at all entirely uncomfortable.

Edited 2012-06-03 22:22 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by gmlongo
by gmlongo on Sun 3rd Jun 2012 22:25 in reply to "RE: Comment by gmlongo"
gmlongo Member since:
2005-07-07

You pointed out the wasted space in the white areas that are only white because OSNews was coded to leave them white. That wasted space, has nothing to do with Metro.

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RE[3]: Comment by gmlongo
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 3rd Jun 2012 22:27 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by gmlongo"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Of course it's Metro's fault. Virtually no website uses that much width because it makes no sense to do so - a simple limitation of the human brain in that reading lines that are too long causes us to lose focus, making reading that much harder. This is basic psychology.

That's why sites tend to not flow beyond a certain width.

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RE[3]: Comment by gmlongo
by l3v1 on Mon 4th Jun 2012 06:48 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by gmlongo"
l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

You pointed out the wasted space in the white areas that are only white because OSNews was coded to leave them white. That wasted space, has nothing to do with Metro.


Sorry guys, but that sounds stupid. Who in their right mind reads a web page full screen on 1920x1200 (I'm also on this res for 90% of my day).

I easily understand the suggestions at the end of the article/post, but my suggestion would simply be to make Metro _entirely_ optional on a non-tablet, non-touch computer. Other usability issues I could mostly solve by using Start8, which is still not a real solution, but at least makes using Win8 a bit more bearable.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Well, OS news still has a scroll bar, there is more information to be displayed, yet it doesn't use the space it does have to display it. I understand that most websites suck at using available screen space, but they should.

For OS News, there is space for two columns of news articles, or even going metro-esque by displaying the full text of an article, along with the story index. There are ways to solve it without resorting to simply stretching the text all the way to 1920px.

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RE[2]: Comment by gmlongo
by bassbeast on Mon 4th Jun 2012 10:40 in reply to "RE: Comment by gmlongo"
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2007-11-11

The easiest way to fix it is.....just don't use Windows 8!

Seriously why in the world are you going to all the trouble to run a cell phone OS on the desktop? its obvious that all MSFT cares about with Win 8 is wimpy little screens or it wouldn't be such a PITB to get it usable on large displays.

So do yourself a favor friend, join me and most of the business world (as well as all my customers) and just say NO! to Win 8. heck with Win 7 supported until 2020 you can skip win 8 AND Win 9 if MSFT doesn't come to their senses, But I have a feeling this is gonna be an MS Bob level of fail so I doubt we'll have long to wait until Win 9 goes back to a sensible desktop.

Many people laughed when I said "Vista is gonna flop" and that came true and I'm betting I'm right again, its just not an improvement over Win 7 unless you are running it on a smartphone and even there I don't think it has a prayer against Android and iOS.

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RE[3]: Comment by gmlongo
by WereCatf on Mon 4th Jun 2012 10:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by gmlongo"
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2006-02-15

The easiest way to fix it is.....just don't use Windows 8!


That's not constructive in any way. You do not fix something just by ignoring it, just as you cannot e.g. fix murder by ignoring it.

Seriously why in the world are you going to all the trouble to run a cell phone OS on the desktop?


Quite a few of the commenters here on OSNews work in IT, and as such they'll inevitably run into situations where they must be able to get around in Win8 and/or help others do that. That's already a very good reason for trying to get acquainted with it already.

Another good reason would be e.g. studying it; what works, what doesn't, how it could be improved and/or what could be imitated elsewhere and what shouldn't.

Then again, if you don't like being constructive you probably don't understand the reasoning anyways.

unless you are running it on a smartphone and even there I don't think it has a prayer against Android and iOS.


You'll be surprised.

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RE[3]: Comment by gmlongo
by zima on Mon 4th Jun 2012 11:03 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by gmlongo"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Many people laughed when I said "Vista is gonna flop" and that came true

I bet many operating systems would love to be such a flop like Vista... (it topped in web stats at quarter of online users, is still the 3rd most used OS) And generally, the apparently adored Win7 is essentially VistaSE.

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RE[2]: Comment by gmlongo
by aliquis on Fri 8th Jun 2012 06:02 in reply to "RE: Comment by gmlongo"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

Not every text line have to be 1920 pixels wide.

Have you ever read a news paper?

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