Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 1st Jun 2012 22:53 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption "Mr. Obama decided to accelerate the attacks - begun in the Bush administration and code-named Olympic Games - even after an element of the program accidentally became public in the summer of 2010 because of a programming error that allowed it to escape Iran's Natanz plant and sent it around the world on the Internet. Computer security experts who began studying the worm, which had been developed by the United States and Israel, gave it a name: Stuxnet." And we're letting these people have unmanned drones. Seems legit.
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RE[8]: Comment by pashar
by pashar on Mon 4th Jun 2012 08:22 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by pashar"
pashar
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2006-07-12

But what gives anyone a right to have their own country and have it unilaterally imposed on someone else's land? It's funny how you focus on how the Arab nations quickly attacked Israel, but turn a blind eye on how Israel was formed on Arab land in the first place.

First of all, a right was given by (surprise) UN.
Second, this land which is now Israel (or vast majority of it) never been Arab. Big part of Israel territory was bought by various Jewish organizations years before Israel was created. In fact, some parts of the bought lands belong now to Jordan, due to a way Palestine was partitioned. In any way, Israel got its land from its (lands) former sovereign - the British, which in turn conquered it during WWI from its previous sovereign - Ottomans and got a specific mandate from League of Nations for creating a "Jewish National Home" in Palestine. Anyway, there never been an Arab State on the current Israel territory for at least 500 years.

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RE[8]: Comment by pashar
by zima on Fri 8th Jun 2012 23:59 in reply to "RE[8]: Comment by pashar"
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2005-07-06

A right was given by, surprise, world powers and winners of one big war - largely unrelated to the people inhabiting that area then, some having it under their control via the good old neocolonialism.

That UN including at its core the good old Soviet Union and, later, PRC BTW. Since you don't realize - its role back then was about balancing the whims and desires of main Cold War powers, the game they played, to prevent even bigger war.
(that why the Soviets "supported" the Arabs on numerous occasions BTW: they didn't really have anything in particular going in for them or against the Jews - but via the whim of history, Israel was more affiliated with the camp of the British)


And seriously, buying private land validly leads to something like that in your eyes?... Who friggin' cares what is the nationality, ethnicity, etc. of somebody who wants to own a farm?

Edited 2012-06-09 00:13 UTC

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