Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 3rd Jun 2012 22:04 UTC
Windows So, I've been using the Windows 8 Release Preview since it came out, almost exclusively (except for work, since I'm obviously not going to rely on unfinished and untested software for that). I already knew I could get into Metro on my 11.6" ZenBook, but on my 24" desktop, things aren't looking as rosy. Here's an illustrated guide of the most pressing issues I run into, and five suggestions to address them. Instead of just complaining, let's get constructive.
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RE[3]: Unaddressed
by hoak on Mon 4th Jun 2012 08:47 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Unaddressed"
hoak
Member since:
2007-12-17

Nelson you need to learn to do a little market research as to where Microsoft makes it's bread and butter, always has, and where it never has... The 'Mobile Market' is an abject fad of consumption toys for idiots that don't really know how to use computers for productive work...

That's well and fine and it may make money, but the people that actually make those toys and the toy software for them need an OS with a multi-tasking interface to make them for you -- not to mention the people that dispatch the ambulance for the Cretins that can't play with their passive consumption toys and walk or drive at the same time...

Edited 2012-06-04 08:52 UTC

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RE[4]: Unaddressed
by Nelson on Mon 4th Jun 2012 08:58 in reply to "RE[3]: Unaddressed"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Developers are well taken care of in Windows 8. Microsoft has done a spectacular job with every aspect of the developer story.

Visual Studio 2012 knocks it out of the park. C# is improved dramatically with async/await.

XAML is fast and fluid, first class support from C# and even C++

JS/HTML5 have great tooling alongside XAML in Blend.

Developers are going to love Windows 8, and in fact, I read an article where an Android developer said its no contest, Windows 8 is hands down the better development platform.

The tooling is superior, the languages are superior, and the APIs are conducive to creating a great experience on all form factors. So what exactly is it you're worried about?

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RE[5]: Unaddressed
by l3v1 on Mon 4th Jun 2012 09:52 in reply to "RE[4]: Unaddressed"
l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

an Android developer said its no contest, Windows 8 is hands down the better development platform


Might turn out to be true, unless you want native app (or at least parts of it) development.

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RE[5]: Unaddressed
by nt_jerkface on Tue 5th Jun 2012 04:05 in reply to "RE[4]: Unaddressed"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

No they won't.

We Windows developers have been complaining on the MSDN blogs. The overwhelming opinion is negative.

This OS SUCKS for anyone who uses more than a browser.

Why doesn't Sinofsky allow Metro to be a choice? Because he knows that he can only force it on the market, it's not good enough to stand alone on merit.

P.S. I own a Windows Phone and like it so please keep the retarded "ur just afraid of change" defense out of this. I somehow wasn't afraid of Metro in WP7 but detest how it is used in Windows 8. Metro in WP7 makes sense but in Windows 8 it is shoved down your throat. Dumping a bunch of icons onto the desktop is not more efficient than a folder tree-view, I kind of thought that was common sense.

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RE[5]: Unaddressed
by OMRebel on Tue 5th Jun 2012 17:28 in reply to "RE[4]: Unaddressed"
OMRebel Member since:
2005-11-14

Developers are well taken care of in Windows 8. Microsoft has done a spectacular job with every aspect of the developer story.

Visual Studio 2012 knocks it out of the park. C# is improved dramatically with async/await.

XAML is fast and fluid, first class support from C# and even C++

JS/HTML5 have great tooling alongside XAML in Blend.

Developers are going to love Windows 8, and in fact, I read an article where an Android developer said its no contest, Windows 8 is hands down the better development platform.

The tooling is superior, the languages are superior, and the APIs are conducive to creating a great experience on all form factors. So what exactly is it you're worried about?


That's a joke right? Visual Studio 2012 is a horrible monstrosity! Unless you are someone that likes in a plain gray house, with gray walls, zero color, and take anti-depressants like they are candy.

The new UI for Visual Studio 2012 has reverted back to an early 90's appearance with lack of color making it harder for a developer to actually find what they are looking for - commonly used objects no longer stand out. That is a horrible mistake of any UI to have everything blend in like that.

Seriously, anyone that thinks the new UI for VS 2012 is actually an improvement needs to be taken out behind a woodshed......

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