Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 3rd Jun 2012 22:04 UTC
Windows So, I've been using the Windows 8 Release Preview since it came out, almost exclusively (except for work, since I'm obviously not going to rely on unfinished and untested software for that). I already knew I could get into Metro on my 11.6" ZenBook, but on my 24" desktop, things aren't looking as rosy. Here's an illustrated guide of the most pressing issues I run into, and five suggestions to address them. Instead of just complaining, let's get constructive.
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RE[7]: Unaddressed
by nt_jerkface on Tue 5th Jun 2012 14:23 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Unaddressed"
nt_jerkface
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2009-08-26

I am keeping it in perspective which is that their image was seriously damaged and there were defections to the mac.

There was also the negative perception that lingered even after Vista had been fixed. It didn't matter, consumers had decided that Vista was bad and Microsoft decided to stop trying to convince them otherwise and release Windows 7.

Why risk the same fiasco? For what? Your attitude of "they'll buy it anyways" says a lot about the product itself. I don't see Windows 8 defenders blogging about how much they love having their icons dumped onto a horizontal screen or having their multi-monitor setup gimped. Defenses typically revolve around "getting used to it" which says everything. When the customer doesn't like the meal you don't say "WELL YOU WILL GET USED TO IT". Good Christ you and Sinofsky don't get business as well as a little girl running a lemonade stand.

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RE[8]: Unaddressed
by Nelson on Tue 5th Jun 2012 15:50 in reply to "RE[7]: Unaddressed"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I am keeping it in perspective which is that their image was seriously damaged and there were defections to the mac.


Which was subsequently fixed the next release cycle, the sun rose and set and Microsoft laughed to the bank. Right? That's exactly how that story ended.

FAR from the doomsday that many like to cart around.

Let's just keep it in perspective. These so called failures have outsold the "mac" which it supposedly caused an exodus to. The notion is ridiculous.


There was also the negative perception that lingered even after Vista had been fixed. It didn't matter, consumers had decided that Vista was bad and Microsoft decided to stop trying to convince them otherwise and release Windows 7.


Doesn't make economic sense to keep up PR for a product that's a release cycle ago, so yes, for the first time in the comments so far, you're right.


Why risk the same fiasco? For what? Your attitude of "they'll buy it anyways" says a lot about the product itself. I don't see Windows 8 defenders blogging about how much they love having their icons dumped onto a horizontal screen or having their multi-monitor setup gimped.


No, I'm just commenting on the "It'll be another Vista" as if Vista sold 2 copies.

I am quite fond of the live tiles, both on my Phone and on my Laptop.

For my dev box, I happen to quite like the improvements they made to MultiMon in Windows 8. I no longer need a third party program like UltraMon.


Defenses typically revolve around "getting used to it" which says everything. When the customer doesn't like the meal you don't say "WELL YOU WILL GET USED TO IT". Good Christ you and Sinofsky don't get business as well as a little girl running a lemonade stand.


Users often don't know what's good for them. They've complained about the introduction of the start menu, every subsequent tweak, and then the removal of the start menu. Same for various other features in Windows.

People are just afraid of change, but it usually only lasts a release cycle until they get a hilarious case of amnesia.

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RE[8]: Unaddressed
by zima on Wed 6th Jun 2012 01:10 in reply to "RE[7]: Unaddressed"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

I am keeping it in perspective which is that their image was seriously damaged and there were defections to the mac.

Yeah ...and that failure of Vista alone still has more users, now, than all versions of OSX combined (in web stats at least - so the real numbers are probably even more in favour of Vista, considering that OSX users are on average from more affluent places, they most likely browse more)

There was also the negative perception that lingered even after Vista had been fixed. It didn't matter, consumers had decided that Vista was bad and Microsoft decided to stop trying to convince them otherwise and release Windows 7.

Win7 is Vista (second edition), essentially - quite telling how such trick ("lucky 7") was enough to make people love it.

Why risk the same fiasco? For what?

High-reward progress often requires risk - and MS might be eyeing, I guess, at possibly winning combination of ~"Metro 3.0" (it usually took 2 to 3 iterations to make something nice) and display tech derived from MS Surface 2.0 - maybe it will flop, maybe it will be epic; we won't know it without somebody trying.
(and I suppose MS might think that it requires "forcing" devs and so on a bit, so the apps will be there on time)

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