Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 8th Jun 2012 17:15 UTC
Microsoft "A few weeks ago, we shared our plans for the Express editions of Visual Studio 2012. As we've worked to deliver the best experience with Visual Studio for our platforms with Windows 8, Windows Phone, and for Web and Windows Azure, we heard from our community that developers want to have for Windows desktop development the same great experience and access to the latest Visual Studio 2012 features at the Express level. Today, I'm happy to announce that we will add Visual Studio Express 2012 for Windows Desktop to the Visual Studio 2012 family. This will bring to the Visual Studio Express family significant new capabilities that we've made available in Visual Studio 2012 for building great desktop applications."
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RE[4]: Just the beginning...
by moondevil on Sun 10th Jun 2012 07:51 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Just the beginning..."
moondevil
Member since:
2005-07-08

We managed to escape both Oracle and IBM.


Really?

Most enterprise projects make use of Oracle systems.

Many young geeks seem to think that IBM is a all Linux love, when in fact back in the 70's and early 80's it was as bad or worse than Microsoft.

On the time-sharing days, most languages were somehow even more tied to the OS than nowadays. IBM had a big responsibility on these state of affairs.

It is all about the money. There is no good or evil in big corporations.

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RE[5]: Just the beginning...
by Andre on Sun 10th Jun 2012 10:10 in reply to "RE[4]: Just the beginning..."
Andre Member since:
2005-07-06

IBM about linux love? I never made that association.

If it's all about the money in big companies, doesn't that make them evil?

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RE[6]: Just the beginning...
by moondevil on Mon 11th Jun 2012 06:26 in reply to "RE[5]: Just the beginning..."
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

IBM about linux love? I never made that association.


Many people do, because IBM does contribute a lot to kernel development.

But like any company, they do it, because they want Linux to run properly on the servers they sell, that is all.

If it's all about the money in big companies, doesn't that make them evil?


Depends on one thinks about getting money. Anyway, when a company shows some geek love, by releasing open source stuff, that does not make them automatic good.

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