Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 11th Jun 2012 21:19 UTC
Apple Apple held its keynote speech just now, kicking off its developer conference. The company announced minor refreshes for its laptop line, introduced a stunning new laptop with a Retina display, and gave a sneak peek of iOS 6, which will launch in the Fall.
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RE[2]: Death of Wired networking
by MOS6510 on Tue 12th Jun 2012 12:20 UTC in reply to "RE: Death of Wired networking"
MOS6510
Member since:
2011-05-12

Most of the time your laptop will be unwired. Why carry an ethernet port if it's seldom used? Same for an optical drive.

The whole point of a laptop is to be portable.

If you want/need a network cable you might as well get a desktop computer.

My iMac at work has only one wire: the power cable.

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organgtool Member since:
2010-02-25

Why carry an ethernet port if it's seldom used?


Most wireless routers and high-speed modems require a hard-wired connection to configure them. I guess this means that you'll have to make a trip to the Apple store and pony up $29 just for the ability to configure these devices. Also, I prefer to perform financial transactions over a wired connection. I use a strong WPA2 password for my wireless router, but I feel better knowing that the ciphertext can't be sniffed over the air with a physical connection.

Besides, what do you have against "carrying an ethernet port"? You make it sound like they're a separate, bulky item that takes up extra space and adds unnecessary weight.

Finally, the elimination of the 17-inch model guarantees that I won't be using one of these to replace my current MacBook Pro.

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MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Well, you've got a few points there. Although regarding routers/modems, I assume most people have a regular desktop around and a laptop being a second system.

Having an ethernet port is convenient, but if most people don't it does it make sense to have one? Having a floppy drive can sometimes be convenient too, but most people would never or seldom use it, I use a USB floppy drive for the rare occasion.

I do think the Pro models should have one, because they're expensive anyway and might as well offer extra options over the non-Pro models.

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majipoor Member since:
2009-01-22

An Ethernet port would be most probably physically too big to fit on a 0.7" thick laptop. Should we keep forever thicker laptops just in case we need a wired connection and do not want to spend $29 on an adapter?

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jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

Besides, what do you have against "carrying an ethernet port"? You make it sound like they're a separate, bulky item that takes up extra space and adds unnecessary weight.

Yes, yes it does take up space. We have been at the stage where the thinness of a laptop is dictated by an ethernet port (or, even worse in the case of most Windows laptops, a VGA port) for some time now. Apple just changed that.

Do you own a smartphone or tablet? Do you feel like it needs to have an ethernet port?

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Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

MOS6510,

"Most of the time your laptop will be unwired. Why carry an ethernet port if it's seldom used?"


http://cnettv.cnet.com/steve-jobs-demo-fail/9742-1_53-50088649.html

Haha! That is all.

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MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

His demo failed and now he's dead.

Then again, would you add ethernet to a mobile phone and wire up hundreds of people in the audience?

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

A wire is still much faster than a wireless connection and there are many legitimate reasons to transfer large amounts of data from one machine to another. I should wait for wifi to eventually do it instead of my GB wired network?

We also use the notebook as a portable DVD player. Of course, Apple would prefer all movie watching happen through Itunes with second purchase of my existing movie library.. so no optical drive in a "Pro" hardware model either.

Why do these companies keep offering polished turds claiming they are gourmet?

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MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Nothing stops you from watching a movie on a MacBook that isn't bought via iTunes or even bought at all.

I have downloaded movies or ripped them from DVDs, they play fine on any Apple device.

Why bother with a DVD if you can store several movies on the internal disk.

When we go on holiday we used to bring a number of DVDs along and a portable DVD player. Now I put a few kids movies on my iPad for my son and a couple of movies + series on my iPod.

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Most of the time your laptop will be unwired. Why carry an ethernet port if it's seldom used? [...]
The whole point of a laptop is to be portable.
If you want/need a network cable you might as well get a desktop computer.

So you're seriously arguing that RJ45 port impacts in any significant way the portability of a laptop... (instead of, say, "Form > function"*)
And that for this one minuscule port it's sensible to get a desktop, and ignore the overall benefits of a laptop... (most people seem to use them in quite "stationary" / home settings BTW; they're still much more convenient)

Try to limit RDF sometimes... * especially when it's ultimately about a stupid aesthetic trick. Dropping RJ45 didn't really make this MBP thinner - it's for style, optically thinner ("slick" tapering edges)


And nearby...

I assume most people have a regular desktop around and a laptop being a second system.

Laptops outsell desktops for quite some time. There are plenty of my acquaintances with just a laptop in their home - or, at most, the desktop is usually at least partly broken, in storage (people rarely outright throw away such stuff here)

Well, 'a' case and an extreme one. I'm not likely to be found in a room with over 500 laptop users all using WiFi [...] Public places seldom (I can't name any) have an network socket in the wall.

Lecture rooms at one nearby tech uni typically have ethernet at hand; wifi access is often a disaster, with so many machines around.

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