Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 11th Jun 2012 21:19 UTC
Apple Apple held its keynote speech just now, kicking off its developer conference. The company announced minor refreshes for its laptop line, introduced a stunning new laptop with a Retina display, and gave a sneak peek of iOS 6, which will launch in the Fall.
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RE[4]: Death of Wired networking
by MOS6510 on Tue 12th Jun 2012 14:35 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Death of Wired networking"
MOS6510
Member since:
2011-05-12

His demo failed and now he's dead.

Then again, would you add ethernet to a mobile phone and wire up hundreds of people in the audience?

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Mellin Member since:
2005-07-06

i wouldn't log into secure websites with a phone

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MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

If you look at security incidents it's not people's WiFi getting intercepted, it's easy passwords, hacked websites or programmers not encrypting passwords in their software.

When it's about getting money from people randomly trying to hack in to someone's WiFi signal isn't very efficient. Bank scammers tend to use phishing attacks to either make people use a fake website or install malware in to their computers.

Fact is most people don't do Internet banking a lot of times during the day, so it's very inefficient to wait in front of someone's house with some clever system to intercept payments and alter them. When you go to places where a lot of people gather it will be highly unlikely that they'll do Internet banking there, nor you hacking 'n' altering one. It would be easier to pull a knife and run off with their laptop.

When you have such technical talents you might as well hack a crapy webshop that may yield a number of credit card numbers.

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Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

MOS6510,

"Then again, would you add ethernet to a mobile phone and wire up hundreds of people in the audience?"

Don't change the goalposts, you were talking about laptops not phones. And I'm just pointing out use cases where ethernet is still handy to have. It doesn't make sense to take pride in a device that lacks ethernet, unless you find the scenario that Jobs found himself in to be acceptable. There are plenty of other use cases too, from dormitories to hotels, the lack of ethernet could leave you offline or with reduced data rates.

Wifi is often "good enough", and when it is then we use it, but the reality is Wifi competes against many other users of the same unlicensed spectrum. The more gadgets that make use of this limited spectrum, the more frequently they will fail.

Edited 2012-06-12 20:51 UTC

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MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12


Don't change the goalposts, you were talking about laptops. And I'm just pointing out use cases where ethernet is still handy to have.


Well, 'a' case and an extreme one. I'm not likely to be found in a room with over 500 laptop users all using WiFi.


It doesn't make sense to take pride in a device that lacks ethernet, unless you find the scenario that Jobs found himself in to be acceptable. There are plenty of other use cases too, from dormitories to hotels, the lack of ethernet could leave you offline.

Wifi is often "good enough", and when it is then we use it, but the reality is Wifi competes against many other users of the same unlicensed spectrum. The more gadgets that make use of this limited spectrum, the more frequently they will fail.


Apple nor I take any pride in it. What I argue is that if a feature is seldom used it could be considered to be removed. From my personal experience I know I never use the ethernet connection, nor the optical drive or the VGA and parallel interface (IBM Thinkpad).

I consider a laptop a portable device, one that allows you to easily move it about and allow you to sit where you want and use it. If you wire it up you limit its mobility and places you can use it. Public places seldom (I can't name any) have an network socket in the wall.

If you start plugging in all kinds of cables and wires you might as well use a desktop computer.

I agree WiFi isn't very reliable sometimes, certainly not in public places, but you can also use the 3G connection of your phone.

My iMac at work is connected via WiFi and I never experience any problems, despite a lot of people walking around with mobile phones that are connected to WiFi.

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