Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 12th Jun 2012 23:59 UTC
Apple So, iOS 6 will make its way to devices all the way back to the 3GS... But many key features are not available at all on the 3GS, and even the iPhone 4 and iPad 2 are seeing features held back. "Some features, like the VIP List for email, the Offline Reading List, and Shared Photo Stream won't work on the iPhone 3GS. Even flagship iOS features like Flyover, turn-by-turn navigation, and FaceTime over cellular won't work on recent devices like the iPhone 4 or the iPad 2 - not to mention the iPhone 3GS." Pretty scummy and misleading.
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RE[2]: Comment by Macrat
by darknexus on Wed 13th Jun 2012 03:51 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Macrat"
darknexus
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2008-07-15

You can blame your carrier for failing to support your HTC G2 with the latest Google updates.


Bullshit. You can blame HTC for being spineless and caving in to every idiotic demand that a carrier makes. Apple does a lot of crappy things and they're down right dirty in some of their business tactics, but I do applaud them for not allowing the carriers to dictate any control over the iPhone. Perhaps if other handset makers had a bit more spine, we wouldn't have the ridiculously fragmented versions of Android that most people are forced to deal with which, in turn, leads to the inability of the handset makers to keep up with the latest Google updates. In the end, it doesn't matter who is to blame, from an end-user perspective. They see iPhones getting operating system updates while they do not, and draw their conclusions from what they see happening. Playing the blame game is not the answer.

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RE[3]: Comment by Macrat
by Radio on Wed 13th Jun 2012 06:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Macrat"
Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

Bullshit. You can blame HTC for being spineless and caving in to every idiotic demand that a carrier makes.

Spineless? You idiot. The carriers can kill any company when they want. Only Apple managed to get in a position of force, and that was a one-off, a perfect storm of new hardware, powerful marketing and ruthless negociating. The carriers got taken by surprise, and will make sure that does not happen a second time.

Edited 2012-06-13 06:20 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by Macrat
by MOS6510 on Wed 13th Jun 2012 07:51 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Macrat"
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2011-05-12

Apple continues to make money of iPhone after they are sold, so they have a vested interest in not having carrier crapware on their phones and up-to-date phones so all the apps that are sold via the Apple app store work.

Other manufactures just want to sell you a new phone. And you can get one cheaper if you extend your contract, which carriers want. Keeping you up-to-date costs them money, it doesn't make them any.

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RE[4]: Comment by Macrat
by darknexus on Wed 13th Jun 2012 18:16 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Macrat"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Spineless? You idiot.


Ah, devolving into personal insults before even making your argument. How very… intelligent.

The carriers can kill any company when they want. Only Apple managed to get in a position of force, and that was a one-off, a perfect storm of new hardware, powerful marketing and ruthless negociating. The carriers got taken by surprise, and will make sure that does not happen a second time.


This only came about because the companies like HTC did not even attempt to put up a fight. Another poster already said it perfectly, their interest is in selling you a new phone asap. They don't give a shit about you after that, so I wouldn't have expected them to. However, the next company that puts out a new device with the wow factor, whichever company that might be, will be able to do the same sort of rough negotiating should they wish it. The carriers can't "kill" any company they want, far from it. The upper hand goes to the company with the most drive and the best marketing. If enough users want something, the carriers can bitch and moan all they want but eventually will have to either offer it or suffer a customer drop and therefore a loss of proffit. Just ask T-mobile what happened to a lot of their US customers when the iPhone came out on AT&T. Look at Sprint, who eventually had to bank their entire future on an iPhone deal, since their service is so horrible on most areas. I'm not saying the iPhone is the best device, far from it. But it had the wow factor, still does for many, and the carriers eventually had to face that. Whichever company has the device with the most consumer demand will be in the best negotiating position should they wish to take advantage of it when the wow factor comes around for the next time. What, or who, that will be is something we can't know at this point, but I'm hoping it's someone with the spine to take advantage of their position and not allow the carriers to ruin an otherwise awesome device.

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RE[3]: Comment by Macrat
by dudeman456 on Wed 13th Jun 2012 09:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Macrat"
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2012-01-04

Technically its not like Apple to support 3 devices, but they did it.

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