Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 12th Jun 2012 23:59 UTC
Apple So, iOS 6 will make its way to devices all the way back to the 3GS... But many key features are not available at all on the 3GS, and even the iPhone 4 and iPad 2 are seeing features held back. "Some features, like the VIP List for email, the Offline Reading List, and Shared Photo Stream won't work on the iPhone 3GS. Even flagship iOS features like Flyover, turn-by-turn navigation, and FaceTime over cellular won't work on recent devices like the iPhone 4 or the iPad 2 - not to mention the iPhone 3GS." Pretty scummy and misleading.
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RE[3]: Comment by Macrat
by Radio on Wed 13th Jun 2012 06:13 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Macrat"
Radio
Member since:
2009-06-20

Bullshit. You can blame HTC for being spineless and caving in to every idiotic demand that a carrier makes.

Spineless? You idiot. The carriers can kill any company when they want. Only Apple managed to get in a position of force, and that was a one-off, a perfect storm of new hardware, powerful marketing and ruthless negociating. The carriers got taken by surprise, and will make sure that does not happen a second time.

Edited 2012-06-13 06:20 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by Macrat
by MOS6510 on Wed 13th Jun 2012 07:51 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Macrat"
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2011-05-12

Apple continues to make money of iPhone after they are sold, so they have a vested interest in not having carrier crapware on their phones and up-to-date phones so all the apps that are sold via the Apple app store work.

Other manufactures just want to sell you a new phone. And you can get one cheaper if you extend your contract, which carriers want. Keeping you up-to-date costs them money, it doesn't make them any.

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RE[5]: Comment by Macrat
by Radio on Wed 13th Jun 2012 08:12 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Macrat"
Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

The money earned through App Store sales is high in absolute, in the billions, but it is still ridiculously low in relative, compared to everything else. £Check their financial reports.

Apple DOES have a MAJOR interest in selling you a new phone, that is why their updates are artificially crippled.

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RE[4]: Comment by Macrat
by darknexus on Wed 13th Jun 2012 18:16 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Macrat"
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2008-07-15

Spineless? You idiot.


Ah, devolving into personal insults before even making your argument. How very… intelligent.

The carriers can kill any company when they want. Only Apple managed to get in a position of force, and that was a one-off, a perfect storm of new hardware, powerful marketing and ruthless negociating. The carriers got taken by surprise, and will make sure that does not happen a second time.


This only came about because the companies like HTC did not even attempt to put up a fight. Another poster already said it perfectly, their interest is in selling you a new phone asap. They don't give a shit about you after that, so I wouldn't have expected them to. However, the next company that puts out a new device with the wow factor, whichever company that might be, will be able to do the same sort of rough negotiating should they wish it. The carriers can't "kill" any company they want, far from it. The upper hand goes to the company with the most drive and the best marketing. If enough users want something, the carriers can bitch and moan all they want but eventually will have to either offer it or suffer a customer drop and therefore a loss of proffit. Just ask T-mobile what happened to a lot of their US customers when the iPhone came out on AT&T. Look at Sprint, who eventually had to bank their entire future on an iPhone deal, since their service is so horrible on most areas. I'm not saying the iPhone is the best device, far from it. But it had the wow factor, still does for many, and the carriers eventually had to face that. Whichever company has the device with the most consumer demand will be in the best negotiating position should they wish to take advantage of it when the wow factor comes around for the next time. What, or who, that will be is something we can't know at this point, but I'm hoping it's someone with the spine to take advantage of their position and not allow the carriers to ruin an otherwise awesome device.

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