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Gnome The first in a new series of development builds of GNOME has been released. You can compile GNOME 2.13.1 by using these jhbuild modulesets. Planned features can be found here.
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RE[20]: gnome still sucks
by on Thu 27th Oct 2005 23:42 UTC in reply to "RE[19]: gnome still sucks"

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> The drag handle can't be turned off.
>
> The option for the toolbars is there because not every > user of VMware is going to run a GNOME desktop, or a
> version of GNOME high enough to support setting this on
> a global basis. So by default, it uses GNOME settings,
> unless you force it to something else.

Excuse me, but I don't understand this. You said that VMare embedds nicely into GNOME but then it doesn't because you can't set the draghandle for the menu inside the menu and toolbars capplet ? And now you said you can't turn it off at all. Please beg pardon but what kind of integration is that ? The GNOME version I am running is high enough to deal with this (whatever that means) and the menu and toolbar capplet is the correct way to interact with this stuff. Integration means supporting it. If it doesn't support it then it's not GNOME conform or not as integrated as you might want to make your customers believe.

The default behavior for GTK+ should be no draghandle for menu, no draghandle for toolbar. The default behavior for GNOME should be "obey the rules set through the menus and toolbar capplet". The capplet where you can set the toolbar draghandle, the behavior of the toolbar (icon only, text only etc...) and within gconf-editor you should be able to enable or disable the menu draghandle.

If VMware would have been using the KDE Desktop then there would only be a common way doing this since you deal with full supported Toolbar objects than can't malfunction. I think you people at VMare need to improve in this area and make it behave correctly to the way how it's done. Now you are a known GNOME guy, as well as philip and as you correctly said, I shouldn't have to tell you how it should work - but sadly I had to.

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RE[21]: gnome still sucks
by Hiev on Thu 27th Oct 2005 23:49 in reply to "RE[20]: gnome still sucks"
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2005-09-27

If VMware would have been using the KDE Desktop then there would only be a common way doing this since you deal with full supported Toolbar objects than can't malfunction.

And they would have to expend thousans fo dollars in licenses, they made the right desition, VMWare is a hit a a great application, you are only frustrated because they choosed GTK/GNOME instead Qt/KDE, they made the right desition Cudos to VMWare developers.

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RE[22]: gnome still sucks
by on Thu 27th Oct 2005 23:57 in reply to "RE[21]: gnome still sucks"
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How many fake accounts do you have ?

> And they would have to expend thousans fo dollars in
> licenses, they made the right desition, VMWare is a hit
> a a great application, you are only frustrated because
> they choosed GTK/GNOME instead Qt/KDE, they made the
> right desition Cudos to VMWare developers.

Uhm, your explaination is quite stupid. The question would be how many dollars are VMWare getting with each sold VMWare key ? Probably much more than the license they had to pay for using QT. Or are you telling us, you use a pirate version of VMWare ? Dare you, you make people like ChipX86 become unemployed maybe.

http://www.vmware.com/vmwarestore/pricing.html

VMware GSX Server 3 (for Windows operating systems and Linux systems)

Electronic Software Distribution
2 Processors US $1694.00 * BUY
Unlimited Processors US $3388.00 * BUY

I can't consider this to be "cheap" even the workstation versions ain't cheap. So how does these prices compare to what they had to pay Trolltech for using QT ? 20 developer licenses would mean, selling 10 GSX Servers with unlimited processors.

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