Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 11th Jun 2012 00:38 UTC, submitted by judgen
Windows "Microsoft recently extended 'It Just Works' compatibility for Visual Basic 6 applications through the full lifetime of Windows 8. Visual Basic 6 first shipped in 1998, so its apps will have at least 24 years of supported lifetime. Contrast that with the Microsoft .NET Framework 1.0 (2002), which is incompatible with Windows 7 (2009)."
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RE[7]: yeah, it's great.
by snorkel1 on Wed 13th Jun 2012 15:31 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: yeah, it's great."
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2012-02-25

"...that's this spoilage (of its future) right here. Yeah, Delphi is around, it's nice - but it sort of lingers on, doesn't seem to have that much of a future."

Yep, and that's because of Microsoft, if people actually knew they could use Lazarus or Delphi and get things done faster with no stupid dependencies on .net runtime frameworks they would love it.
I work for a big corp and the .not developers are always complaining that they need the .net version x.x whatever on all the PCs and the corp gives them a huge hassele because that's not the standard image. They get pissed off when I tell them if they had used Delphi instead they would not have these issues ha ha ha.

Delphi and Lazarus are great, but if people like us don't promote it know one will know about it because of the MS monopoly on this, and they do have a monopoly because they can afford to give all the express dev tools away for free because of the strangle hold they have on everyone.

It just blows me away how people get locked into windows. use .net for web development and your pretty much locked into using IIS,when you could use python or PHP or Perl etc and use Apache instead on your choice of linux or unix/bsd operating systems

The other problem is people are so afraid of trying something new.

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RE[8]: yeah, it's great.
by moondevil on Wed 13th Jun 2012 17:46 in reply to "RE[7]: yeah, it's great."
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Yep, and that's because of Microsoft


Microsoft is not to blame here.

Borland almost went bankrupt. Would you develop a product in a proprietary language from a company short to close it's doors?

Kylix failed to the way Borland completely missed the Linux way of working.

Free Pascal/Lazarus are still pretty much lacking in the Windows world, which is where Delphi lives. Plus it still does not handle all Delphi constructs.

If anyone is to blame, it is Borland.

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RE[8]: yeah, it's great.
by zima on Thu 14th Jun 2012 02:38 in reply to "RE[7]: yeah, it's great."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Yep, and that's because of Microsoft

In addition to what moondevil wrote - why because of MS, why not because of Trolltech or Sun? Or Tim Berners-Lee, Netscape, PHP, & co? (bringing, popularising - also as a platform for quick'n'dirty internal apps - the web ...another alternative to Delphi; you even manage to mention this widely adopted path, but without connecting the dots)

You are putting the blame for Delphi demise at this one success story (MS) without really showing any connection between the two, other than cut-throat competition. And all while other alternatives did become very widespread, even some very small players were thriving - Qt sees quite a bit of use nowadays, did so before it became part of Nokia.
We did try many new things, and adopted some of them.

So, why Trolltech is not to blame? After all, they also ~"do have a monopoly because they can afford to give all the express dev tools away for free", right?

Nothing to do with the errors made by custodians of Delphi, hm?

Edited 2012-06-14 02:42 UTC

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