Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 14th Jun 2012 02:49 UTC
Apple After a proper teardown, iFixit concludes that the new MacBook Pro has no user-serviceable parts at all, which some think is a really bad thing. I honestly don't know - I mean, my ZenBook isn't particularly user-serviceable either, and my smartphones, tablets, and whatnot are pretty much entirely soldered together as well. What do you guys make of this?
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Comment by Luminair
by Luminair on Thu 14th Jun 2012 03:57 UTC
Luminair
Member since:
2007-03-30

it is my recollection that apple was always an asshole like this. while apple products were "personal computers," when most of us think "PC" we really think "IBM PC Compatible." and all of those were user-serviceable.

so maybe the new not-user-serviceable macbook pro is "post-pc," or maybe it is an "appliance," or maybe it is just another stupid apple macintosh.

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it's a nice design, but it takes power away from the user. you can debate whether the power lost is valuable, and whether it is justifiable. personally I think making something with non-standard parts that is hard to get into is just being an asshole.

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RE: Comment by Luminair
by Morgan on Thu 14th Jun 2012 06:45 in reply to "Comment by Luminair"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Simply put, it's an x86 iPad with a keyboard but no touch screen. And I'm very surprised about that last bit, I was fully expecting a touch screen MacBook this year.

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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by lazar on Thu 14th Jun 2012 09:59 in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
lazar Member since:
2008-12-10

I was fully expecting a touch screen MacBook this year.


I wasn't at all, because that would render a MacBook Air, MacBook Pro and an iPad useless alltogether, you would instantly eliminate two out of three products and your diversification is gone.

Remember this stupid illustration? http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2010/10/Vertical-Multit...

Steve kept selling us that bullsh*t that we would get a gorilla arm when using a touchscreen vertically. What a nonsense!
As if every tablet is operated in horizontal position on a table!

I've personally been waiting for a good touchscreen-notebook since the Psion5-days. I might see it before I die ;-)

The new 'next-gen' MBPs seem to me like a piece of 'vista-hardware':

- still glossy display
- with my 2011 mbp I already carry an thunderbolt-2-HDMI adapater; but oh well - this new mbp now has a dedicated HDMI-out - what do I do with my old adapter - toss it away!!! Instead I buy that thunderbolt-2-LAN-adapter - *because* - what I surprise - the ethernet-port is gone

-same holds true for my 3 MagSafe chargers (I like to have one at home, one at work and one in the car). If I ever buy another mbp, I will probably have to either throw them away or try to manipulate them with a file in orther to transform them into MagSafe2-plugs.

As german it-news-site Heise put it: Adapters are the new ink-cartridges.

On my 1 year and 3 months MBP I just recently discovered that the camera und ambient ligth sensor stopped working? Why so soon? I never dropped it or spilled liquid on it.
And now no user servicable parts and you're are pricing the device up ? - Well thanks!

I can totally afford a new 'next-gen' MBP, but am refusing to burn 2000$/€ in 15 months and then needing to buy a new one. I hate planned obsolency. And Ap*le does this probably better than anyone else.

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RE[2]: Comment by Luminair
by zima on Thu 14th Jun 2012 10:09 in reply to "RE: Comment by Luminair"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm very surprised about that last bit, I was fully expecting a touch screen MacBook this year.

I wasn't; at the least, because that would be probably a sort of competition & bad PR for the iPad - and I guess Apple wants to fully exploit the momentum of that one.

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RE: Comment by Luminair
by runjorel on Thu 14th Jun 2012 14:07 in reply to "Comment by Luminair"
runjorel Member since:
2009-02-09

Keyword: Appliance. I feel that's where 'post-PCs' are going.

Edited 2012-06-14 14:11 UTC

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RE: Comment by Luminair
by No it isnt on Thu 14th Jun 2012 22:08 in reply to "Comment by Luminair"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

My ancient Powerbook G3 was actually very easy to service. Ah, some parts, like the tiny PRAM battery, were pretty hard to get to, but it popped out the keyboard easily, and by careful design.

Then again, already the first Mac was designed to be a locked-down, evil 1984 type machine. Think ironic.

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