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Gnome The first in a new series of development builds of GNOME has been released. You can compile GNOME 2.13.1 by using these jhbuild modulesets. Planned features can be found here.
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RE[23]: gnome still sucks
by Hiev on Fri 28th Oct 2005 00:00 UTC in reply to "RE[22]: gnome still sucks"
Hiev
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2005-09-27

Uhm, your explaination is quite stupid. The question would be how many dollars are VMWare getting with each sold VMWare key ?

Now imagine how much would VMWare cost if you add the license of Qt cost? maybe triple. GTK is the right way to go, Qt/KDE is only destinated to fail, is to damn expensive, GTK will succes in other projects, you can be sure.

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RE[24]: gnome still sucks
by on Fri 28th Oct 2005 00:11 in reply to "RE[23]: gnome still sucks"
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> Now imagine how much would VMWare cost if you add the
> license of Qt cost? maybe triple.

Thats pure bullshit and only proves that you have no slightest clue about economics.

> GTK will succes in other projects, you can be sure.

I am sure about is that VMWare of course did the right decision for going with GTK+, they don't need to pay for GTK+ but still make the biggest profit out of the work from volunteers.

I feel sorry for the poor souls working their ass off on improving, fixing, translating and contributing to GTK+ only to fill the money bags of bigger companies.

I don't condem VMWare for doing this but then, your VMWare defendings is simply plain stupid, since you don't have anything from it, you don't help those who work their ass off on GTK+ even without payment.

I think you just made a lot of GTK+ contributors become more upset because I know pretty much a few people who do feel 'abused' in a way.

Isn't this economics great. A lot of people who don't have much understanding about economics, trapped in this illusion called open source and free software working their tail off, don't get anything for it (not even working desktop) for the benefits of those who sell commercial products and who drive the big BMW or Mercedes or live in a 200 square meter villa with good furniture and great meal, while those who work their ass off on GTK+ probably don't know how to pay their next bills.

But then, the times where open source and free software still had the meaning it initially had (which I consider to be honourful) are over. Get real, it's all about cash, everything is manipulateable with money, you can even buy loyalist people (like OSN) for promoting GNOME and other stuff, you only need to dump the right amount of cash down their throath.

So that's why I believe that QT and Trolltech are doing fine here. I also believe that VMWare is doing fine and most other companies who try to make a few bucks to pay their employees, to pay fixed and variable costs and try to do something seriously productive. The primary fools are just those contributors who still believe in pride, in open source and free software - what a joke!

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RE[25]: gnome still sucks
by Yuske on Fri 28th Oct 2005 00:13 in reply to "RE[24]: gnome still sucks"
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2005-07-28

I feel sorry for the poor souls working their ass off on improving, fixing, translating and contributing to GTK+ only to fill the money bags of bigger companies.

And TrollTech is doing it all for charity, GROW UP.

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