Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 14th Jun 2012 15:15 UTC, submitted by Jos
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless And the burning platform is still, uhm, burning. "Chief Executive Stephen Elop is placing hopes of a turnaround on a new range of smartphones called Lumia, which use largely untried Microsoft software. But Lumia sales have so far been slow, disappointing investors." It's a shame to see a once proud company in such a downward spiral, but alas, it's the way of business. If you get complacent - as Nokia had gotten - you will fail.
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RE[8]: Its a restructuring
by shmerl on Thu 14th Jun 2012 23:10 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: Its a restructuring"
shmerl
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2010-06-08

Let's assume that they went with MeeGo instead of Windows Phone, what exactly is it that would put them on firmer footing than they are now?


Flexible system, which can share effort with other manufacturers, and not controlled by MS and their idiotic restrictions.

Meego however wasn't organized too well management wise (too much control from Nokia). They had to structure it better to attract participation from other hardware vendors.

I really hope something like this will eventually emerge, whether with Nokia or not - I don't really care about them anymore. May be Tizen or something the like. I'd prefer for them to use Mer, since Tizen seems to be too much under Samsung's control (same problem as before).

Edited 2012-06-14 23:12 UTC

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RE[9]: Its a restructuring
by Nelson on Thu 14th Jun 2012 23:19 in reply to "RE[8]: Its a restructuring"
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Flexible system, which can share effort with other manufacturers, and not controlled by MS and their idiotic restrictions.


I mean it sounds great, but how well has something like this worked in practice? I think there'd be too many cooks in the kitchen, so to speak, but who knows. It could've worked. I think it would've been riskier though for Nokia.

Plus there'd need to be tools up to snuff, a decent platform to build off of, and some solid commitment from those involved. I just can't see say Samsung investing heavily in something like this vs. Android.

For MeeGo, Intel didn't even have a foot in the door with mobile. Fast forward to today, and they JUST launched a mobile phone chip running Android and Win8 tabs are still months off. So it was always essentially a Nokia only game.


Meego however wasn't organized too well management wise (too much control from Nokia). They had to structure it better to attract participation from other hardware vendors.


I'm mixed on this, on one hand, there always needs to be hard decisions made. Someone needs to put their foot down and say what the project stands for.

For example, on Windows Phone, the user experience and fluidity was not to be impacted by any running app, so the platfom was built around that. You can't have both that, and an open system, they're mutually exclusive.

Also, going by what I've seen from most OEMs on Android, I wouldn't trust a single one to write any kind of software. I don't want TouchWiz OS.


I really hope something like this will eventually emerge, whether with Nokia or not - I don't really care about them anymore. May be Tizen or something the like. I'd prefer for them to use Mer, since Tizen seems to be too much under Samsung's control (same problem as before).


I do too, it'd be interesting to watch. If anything, some good should come of it even if it doesnt ever hit market.

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RE[10]: Its a restructuring
by shmerl on Thu 14th Jun 2012 23:30 in reply to "RE[9]: Its a restructuring"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

I mean it sounds great, but how well has something like this worked in practice? I think there'd be too many cooks in the kitchen, so to speak, but who knows. It could've worked.


With proper efforts separation. Mer proposed a design with the OS core, which is solid, and collaborated by participants as a common ground, and hardware adaptations + UI/UX levels on top. Vendors can do whatever they want with the adaptations and UX layers to differentiate their distros, and collaborate on improving the core OS, which will benefit everyone.

Core is meritocratically governed, with community participation. Meego was not designed quite that way, and unfortunately Tizen isn't either. One sided control eventually proved to be negative for system survival in Meego's case.

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