Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 13th Jun 2012 22:21 UTC, submitted by Valhalla
The BBC interviews Torvalds. I like this bit: "For me, Linux on the desktop is where I started, and Linux on the desktop is literally what I still use today primarily - although I obviously do have other Linux devices, including an Android phone - so I'd personally really love for it to take over in that market too. But I guess that in the meantime I can't really complain about the successes in other markets." Linux on the desktop is quite passe. Phones and servers is where it's at.
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RE[3]: Linus is still in denial
by Fergy on Fri 15th Jun 2012 05:03
in reply to "RE[2]: Linus is still in denial"
Member since:2006-04-10
what you lack is a understanding of how problems like broken updates are a part of Linux and always have been. It's just part of what Linus created.
It is not a flaw in linux it just needs more testing. Linus is one guy in hundreds of thousands of people that define linux. And what does the linux kernel have to do with update systems?
It won't be long before Android phones can be used as desktops and your distro X that you dumped millions into still won't have the software compatibility of Windows or Mac.
Once you plug in your phone in your 24 inch 1920x1200 monitor with your mouse and keyboard you will want to use it as a desktop. This means browsing with a hundred tabs, using a spreadsheet, writing a letter etc. You need different apps for the desktop. Linux already has those apps and it is very easy to support android apps if you would want to.
RE[4]: Linus is still in denial
by nt_jerkface on Fri 15th Jun 2012 06:46
in reply to "RE[3]: Linus is still in denial"
Member since:2009-08-26
It is not a flaw in linux it just needs more testing. Linus is one guy in hundreds of thousands of people that define linux. And what does the linux kernel have to do with update systems?
First of all Linus not just 'one guy', he is the guy at the top and self-described dictator for life. He has decided to just release a kernel and doesn't give a f*** about full systems that update themselves properly. Now that's his prerogative but be aware that full OS design is not in his plan. Neither is a stable abi or creating a kernel that would be useful to an OS engineer. Then toss on the shared library system and competing standards and you have incompatible distros that can't be relied upon for updates.
Once you plug in your phone in your 24 inch 1920x1200 monitor with your mouse and keyboard you will want to use it as a desktop. This means browsing with a hundred tabs, using a spreadsheet, writing a letter etc. You need different apps for the desktop. Linux already has those apps and it is very easy to support android apps if you would want to.
The base OS will be Android, all that functionality will be added. The Linux desktop is a dead end, Linus is just putting on his best face by calling it passe.
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2009-08-26
Because of this ecosystem consumers are more demanding and businesses make enough money to fix the problems and sell more. (kind of like how Windows works)
There was a time when I imagined something like that just as everyone does who goes through the Linux desktop cycle. I don't lack imagination, what you lack is a understanding of how problems like broken updates are a part of Linux and always have been. It's just part of what Linus created.
What you also don't understand is that the economic case for a Linux desktop has never been worse. It won't be long before Android phones can be used as desktops and your distro X that you dumped millions into still won't have the software compatibility of Windows or Mac. It's a dead end and Linus knows it.