Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 13th Jun 2012 22:21 UTC, submitted by Valhalla
Linux The BBC interviews Torvalds. I like this bit: "For me, Linux on the desktop is where I started, and Linux on the desktop is literally what I still use today primarily - although I obviously do have other Linux devices, including an Android phone - so I'd personally really love for it to take over in that market too. But I guess that in the meantime I can't really complain about the successes in other markets." Linux on the desktop is quite passe. Phones and servers is where it's at.
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RE[4]: Linus is still in denial
by nt_jerkface on Fri 15th Jun 2012 11:59 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Linus is still in denial"
nt_jerkface
Member since:
2009-08-26


If you want to try to update it, you'll see how it does not break. Yes, you can update there OpenOffice, Firefox and Flash to the latest versions without needing the command line.


You sure about that?
http://www.kubuntuforums.net/archive/index.php/t-58681.html

I was answering about the "geeks don't want Linux on the desktop" sentence. The stats, of the operating systems of the visitors of OsNews, showed almost 30% of them using Linux on their desktops. At least a 30%, knowing that when people are working, a lot of them can not choose :-( another operating system than Windows.


Most geeks don't want Linux. That is what it boils down to.

As I pointed out earlier the Windows 7 RC eclipsed the market share of Linux despite it not being in stores.

Linux is fun during stages 1-5 of the Linux Youth Experience Cycle but at stage 8 where X crashes over a Flash video you are watching with a date the fresh factor really wears off.

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XenonXZ Member since:
2011-05-25



Most geeks don't want Linux. That is what it boils down to.

As I pointed out earlier the Windows 7 RC eclipsed the market share of Linux despite it not being in stores.

Linux is fun during stages 1-5 of the Linux Youth Experience Cycle but at stage 8 where X crashes over a Flash video you are watching with a date the fresh factor really wears off.


Clearly, the geeks I know and the geeks that you know are completely different, the geeks I know won't use anything other than Linux.

Most people these days, just use what the "sheep" use, there is no getting away from Windows if your a "normal" user, it is in all the schools and everywhere you look from the very moment that you become self aware... Also most people don't like change on their precious machines. - Bring back the days when you actually had to install your own OS and actually know something about what you are doing to get started.

Linux is fun because I can do what I want, when I want and how I want, and noone sitting "up there" gives a sh*t.

I don't know how people "break" Linux, if your savvy enough to install it and use it, you can quite easily google what's happened and fix it in 5 mins.

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

Most people these days, just use what the "sheep" use, there is no getting away from Windows if your a "normal" user, it is in all the schools and everywhere you look from the very moment that you become self aware...


Right but the Windows 7 RC showed that there are millions who are capable of downloading and installing an OS. I would bet that 90% of those users have tried Linux. It just doesn't provide enough value over Windows to be worth the annoyances.

I don't know how people "break" Linux, if your savvy enough to install it and use it, you can quite easily google what's happened and fix it in 5 mins.


People don't break Linux, the updates do that.

If Linux was sold as "if you can install it then you can fix it" then I would have zero problem with it. But we have a Linux cult on the internet the continually sells it as an OS for everyone. It's not for everyone. As a general rule I don't think it should be installed anywhere unless the primary user is willing to learn the command line.

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Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

As I wrote before, if you care to try it by yourself, you can get Kubuntu 11.04, the version I can talk about, in a live cd or ( in a virtual machine in https://minus.com/mX2I0UnLl/1f ) and you can see by yourself how updates don't break it (don't update to Kubuntu 11.10, just do the normal updates) and you can see how you don't need the command line to update. And you can see how X does not crash over a Flash video you are watching.

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