Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 16th Jun 2012 17:52 UTC
Windows Adrian Kingsley-Hughes pens a rant on Windows 8, calling it 'awful': "I'm now ready to sum up my Windows 8 experience with a single word: awful. I could have chosen a number of other words - terrible, horrible, painful and execrable all spring to mind - but it doesn't matter, the sentiment is the same." I've been using Windows 8 Release Preview on both my ZenBook and my regular desktop since its release, and here's my short review: "I like it." Issues a-plenty, but for what is essentially a 1.0 release - not bad. It's a hell of a lot better than other releases which were similar in scope (Mac OS X 10.0, KDE 4.0).
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Saving this
by Bishi on Sat 16th Jun 2012 19:02 UTC
Bishi
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2009-08-27

I'm saving that article, along with all the other similar ones. This is hugely similar to the Xbox, iPod and XP start menu rants.

The people saying the start screen is a disaster are the same ones that didn't adapt to the XP start menu and changed it back to the classic one.

In my opinion, the start screen is a great feature. I'm not so sure about the Metro apps, but I suppose alternatives will start appearing.

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by ichi on Sat 16th Jun 2012 20:02 in reply to "Saving this"
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by Bishi on Sat 16th Jun 2012 20:59 in reply to "RE: Saving this"
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2009-08-27

Hey hey, you're getting too close to the Godwin's singularity.

What I wanted to say is that there's always people who blindly reject change, especially if it's a big one like this. One of the article arguments was that "Microsoft trained us to search for apps in a small, vertical list, and now they force us to look all over the screen". It also dismisses app search functionality, saying "every use of it is a failure".

As a Mac user who has his main apps in the dock and launches the rest through Spotlight, I don't see the downside. As a Win7 user who has his main apps in the taskbar and launches the rest through Start Menu search, I don't see the downside. Win8 launcher it's the same, and allows pinned apps to show extra information.

The article also bashes the Ribbon toolbars. Personally, I think the Ribbon is the killer feature of Office, as it exposes lots of functionality I'd have never discovered otherwise.


This article is a rant, as Thom pointed out. Metro needs some adjustments, and real, non-toy third party Metro apps are badly needed. But there's lots of things in Win8 that could potentially change relationships within apps. The Contracts feature is a really good idea. Cross-app file picking and sharing, among other things, will allow apps to be smaller and focused. That's a really good thing.

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by przemo_li on Sat 16th Jun 2012 20:35 in reply to "Saving this"
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WoW

If you that there is only new START MENU in Win8 then you really should try it for yourself!

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by Windows Sucks on Sat 16th Jun 2012 22:08 in reply to "Saving this"
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2005-11-10

I'm saving that article, along with all the other similar ones. This is hugely similar to the Xbox, iPod and XP start menu rants.

The people saying the start screen is a disaster are the same ones that didn't adapt to the XP start menu and changed it back to the classic one.

In my opinion, the start screen is a great feature. I'm not so sure about the Metro apps, but I suppose alternatives will start appearing.


The XP start menu was a change but at the same time it was the same. It was ugly to a lot of people but like with the Vista, 7 start menus any old Windows user could after a couple of days of playing still use it, most things were still in the same places.

The Metro UI is totally different. Sit a regular Windows user down in front of it and they are totally confused, its like starting all over from scratch. Decades of training out the Window. So Windows 7 will be around for the next 15 years like XP was to cover this fail. LOL. Gonna be real interesting. Because a lot of people are going to stick with Windows 7, Windows 8 tablets etc are going to stall. Crazy mess. Too much going on.

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by nt_jerkface on Sun 17th Jun 2012 01:42 in reply to "RE: Saving this"
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Sit a regular Windows user down in front of it and they are totally confused, its like starting all over from scratch.


Lockergnome did this and the results are on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4boTbv9_nU

Novice users hate the drastic changes, power users hate that the start menu has been replaced with a blinky clusterfuck of icons that they can't avoid. Sounds like a winning combination. Piss off everyone.

http://www.neowin.net/news/weekend-poll-will-you-buy-windows-8

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by righard on Sat 16th Jun 2012 22:08 in reply to "Saving this"
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I'm still doing that ;)

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by nt_jerkface on Sun 17th Jun 2012 00:12 in reply to "Saving this"
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2009-08-26

The people saying the start screen is a disaster are the same ones that didn't adapt to the XP start menu and changed it back to the classic one.


No actually a lot of the same bloggers who liked Vista are not liking Windows 8. Kingsley was one of the few bloggers who actually benchmarked Vista and pointed out that the outstanding issues had been fixed with updates. Thurrott has endorsed every MS product except for Windows 8.


In my opinion, the start screen is a great feature.


Well you obviously don't use many programs then. It's a step backwards for productivity and program organization.


I'm not so sure about the Metro apps, but I suppose alternatives will start appearing.


Microsoft has pissed off developers with Windows 8 and now expects them to cater to a minority of Windows users. Good luck with that.

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by Nelson on Sun 17th Jun 2012 22:00 in reply to "RE: Saving this"
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No actually a lot of the same bloggers who liked Vista are not liking Windows 8. Kingsley was one of the few bloggers who actually benchmarked Vista and pointed out that the outstanding issues had been fixed with updates. Thurrott has endorsed every MS product except for Windows 8.


Can you stop regurgitating this same FALSE bullshit.

Quoting Thurrot:
"But I think people are going to love Metro. Yes, there’s been the expected kvetching from the tech enthusiast crowd, especially around Windows 8, where Metro is seen as an interloper that has destroyed these suddenly beloved interfaces -- like Shutdown and Restart, and the Start button and Start Menu, of course -- that were previously the source of ridicule. Here’s the truth: Sure, there’s always a bit of pain when Microsoft moves options around in a new version of the Windows UI. But these things are, by and large, more consistent now."

Emphasis mine.

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