Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 16th Jun 2012 17:52 UTC
Windows Adrian Kingsley-Hughes pens a rant on Windows 8, calling it 'awful': "I'm now ready to sum up my Windows 8 experience with a single word: awful. I could have chosen a number of other words - terrible, horrible, painful and execrable all spring to mind - but it doesn't matter, the sentiment is the same." I've been using Windows 8 Release Preview on both my ZenBook and my regular desktop since its release, and here's my short review: "I like it." Issues a-plenty, but for what is essentially a 1.0 release - not bad. It's a hell of a lot better than other releases which were similar in scope (Mac OS X 10.0, KDE 4.0).
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RE: Saving this
by ichi on Sat 16th Jun 2012 20:02 UTC in reply to "Saving this"
ichi
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2007-03-06

The people saying the start screen is a disaster are the same ones that didn't adapt to the XP start menu and changed it back to the classic one.


If you really want to invalidate negative opinions you could go further and state that they are also the same ones that were killing jews in WWII.

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RE[2]: Saving this
by Bishi on Sat 16th Jun 2012 20:59 in reply to "RE: Saving this"
Bishi Member since:
2009-08-27

Hey hey, you're getting too close to the Godwin's singularity.

What I wanted to say is that there's always people who blindly reject change, especially if it's a big one like this. One of the article arguments was that "Microsoft trained us to search for apps in a small, vertical list, and now they force us to look all over the screen". It also dismisses app search functionality, saying "every use of it is a failure".

As a Mac user who has his main apps in the dock and launches the rest through Spotlight, I don't see the downside. As a Win7 user who has his main apps in the taskbar and launches the rest through Start Menu search, I don't see the downside. Win8 launcher it's the same, and allows pinned apps to show extra information.

The article also bashes the Ribbon toolbars. Personally, I think the Ribbon is the killer feature of Office, as it exposes lots of functionality I'd have never discovered otherwise.


This article is a rant, as Thom pointed out. Metro needs some adjustments, and real, non-toy third party Metro apps are badly needed. But there's lots of things in Win8 that could potentially change relationships within apps. The Contracts feature is a really good idea. Cross-app file picking and sharing, among other things, will allow apps to be smaller and focused. That's a really good thing.

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RE[3]: Saving this
by nt_jerkface on Sun 17th Jun 2012 01:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Saving this"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

There's always a crowd people who blindly fall for new and shiny and get upset with the guy who points out that the emperor is actually naked.

Windows 8 is a waste of time for enterprise and Microsoft cannot afford to ignore that market.

We're talking about billions of dollars here. For every Windows 8 defender who takes pride in embracing the golden linen of "change" there is a hard nosed CIO who will ask what exactly will offset the increased user training costs. Sinofsky still hasn't answered this question and you can live in la-la tablet land with him until Windows 8 drops along with Microsoft's revenue. Then it will be back to reality and those who were called "afraid of change" will be seen as realistic thinkers whose concerns should have been heeded. Windows 8 defenders will be viewed as vain and completely disconnected from the financial realities of a company like Microsoft and enterprise computing in general.

Just because YOU don't mind the start screen doesn't mean a Fortune 500 hundred company with 100 start menu shortcuts in a shared system image thinks it's f--king jolly to dump them on a single screen with animated icons and then retrain each user to re-learn where their programs are. Office workers are notoriously fickle and will drain thousands hours of support costs over something like this. That's real money, not ill feelings on a tech forum.

Oh but YOU don't mind it, YOU probably spend most the time in a browser and have no consideration for these things. Well don't feel bad, neither does the Windows president.

Edited 2012-06-17 01:19 UTC

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RE[3]: Saving this
by ichi on Mon 18th Jun 2012 17:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Saving this"
ichi Member since:
2007-03-06

Hey hey, you're getting too close to the Godwin's singularity.


Because I said something related to nazis?

Ok, let me rephrase that:

"If you really want to invalidate negative opinions you could go further and state that they are also the same ones that killed Bambi's mother".

Better now? The point is your broad statement was silly.

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