Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 16th Jun 2012 17:52 UTC
Windows Adrian Kingsley-Hughes pens a rant on Windows 8, calling it 'awful': "I'm now ready to sum up my Windows 8 experience with a single word: awful. I could have chosen a number of other words - terrible, horrible, painful and execrable all spring to mind - but it doesn't matter, the sentiment is the same." I've been using Windows 8 Release Preview on both my ZenBook and my regular desktop since its release, and here's my short review: "I like it." Issues a-plenty, but for what is essentially a 1.0 release - not bad. It's a hell of a lot better than other releases which were similar in scope (Mac OS X 10.0, KDE 4.0).
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RE: Not for business use.
by MollyC on Sun 17th Jun 2012 01:29 UTC in reply to "Not for business use. "
MollyC
Member since:
2006-07-04

Also all the products that Microsoft has used the metro style UI on have failed. The Zune? Windows Phone?


I like how you say "all", implying many, then name just two items. And Zune failed because of Metro? You REALLY believe that?

BTW, Xbox is a great success, and it uses Metro.
And Windows Phone usage is steadily increasing, so you might be premature in celbrating its "failure" just yet.

Normally I ignore your posts, since your very user name screams "I'm a troll", but I made an exception in this case.

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RE[2]: Not for business use.
by anevilyak on Sun 17th Jun 2012 01:35 in reply to "RE: Not for business use. "
anevilyak Member since:
2005-09-14

W, Xbox is a great success, and it uses Metro.


Minor nitpick, but the 360 was a success long before the quite recent retooling of its UI to make use of Metro, so it seems a bit disingenuous to use it as an example here.

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thavith_osn Member since:
2005-07-11

Amen...

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RE[3]: Not for business use.
by MollyC on Sun 17th Jun 2012 20:22 in reply to "RE[2]: Not for business use. "
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

Yeah, but it had metro when it became tops in sales. ;)
Indeed, its sales increased after it received the Metro treatment.

I'm not saying it was *because* of Metro, but the guy above is suggesting that Zune failed *because* of Metro, which is absurdity. And he, by implicaiton, suggests that anything to which Metro is applied would die because of it. Xbox disproves that nonsense. According to his "logic", Xbox sales should have crashed after Xbox got Metrofied. That didn't happen, indeed quite the contrary.

Edited 2012-06-17 20:25 UTC

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RE[2]: Not for business use.
by Morgan on Mon 18th Jun 2012 02:22 in reply to "RE: Not for business use. "
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

MollyC, you and I tend to disagree quite a lot but on this point, I'm right there with you.

The Zune didn't "fail", it was phased out in favor of Windows Phone devices which happen to also be Zune players*. My sister has one of the last Zune devices made, and she absolutely loves my phone because of the similar UI. I also greatly prefer the Zune devices to classic iPods, and find it comparable to the iPod touch as a media player.

Windows Phone is here to stay in my opinion, as long as Nokia doesn't screw it up. I think that's the only real danger the platform might run into; that company has gone batshit crazy. The OS itself is simply stunning. It needs maybe one or two tweaks to be a workflow-centric dream. That's far better than iOS and Android are at this point; using iOS for more than one task at a time is an exercise in futility and opening too many apps on an Android device causes instability and lost work. Nearly a year of fighting it on three phones and a Nook taught me that, though it ran better by far on the tablet than the phones.

And I certainly am enjoying Metro on the Xbox too! In fact I'd say the ONLY thing I don't like Metro on is non-touchscreen desktop and laptop computers.

*A quote for those who don't believe me:

Here’s what you should know – ALL consumer electronics products have a lifespan, and the Zune HD is 18mo old. We were completely frank about this year’s Zune hardware being the WP7 phones, and we continue to both sell and fully support the Zune HD line of products. And as I’ve promised – we continue to bring new apps and games to the platform.
-- Dave McLauchlan, Senior Business Development Manager for Zune

Source: http://anythingbutipod.com/2011/03/zune-is-not-dead/

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RE[3]: Not for business use.
by adkilla on Mon 18th Jun 2012 04:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Not for business use. "
adkilla Member since:
2005-07-07

I think the major rejection of WP is due to the fact that it is very restrictive. While many users could deal with the UI straightjacket on WP, the restrictions with using the Zune client and hardware options are putting users off.

MS is doing a bad job of shoehorning Apple's model into WP. Apple targets its devices as premium/high-end and with high profit margins. Something that does not work with WP because the brand image is not the same, they are also targeting developing markets and are dependent on manufacturers that need differentiation to be competitive.

In the case of Nokia, it boggles my mind with their WP or nothing strategy. It is like they are a subsidiary of MS. The rating agencies have rated their debts as junk. They won't be around long enough if they continue with this do or die strategy. It would have been wiser if they still continued with Symbian/Harmattan while giving MS time to get their act together. Unless part of their strategy is to make Nokia cheap enough for a MS take over with all the rich patent portfolio.

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