Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 16th Jun 2012 17:52 UTC
Windows Adrian Kingsley-Hughes pens a rant on Windows 8, calling it 'awful': "I'm now ready to sum up my Windows 8 experience with a single word: awful. I could have chosen a number of other words - terrible, horrible, painful and execrable all spring to mind - but it doesn't matter, the sentiment is the same." I've been using Windows 8 Release Preview on both my ZenBook and my regular desktop since its release, and here's my short review: "I like it." Issues a-plenty, but for what is essentially a 1.0 release - not bad. It's a hell of a lot better than other releases which were similar in scope (Mac OS X 10.0, KDE 4.0).
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Not again
by scrtyfrk on Sun 17th Jun 2012 06:01 UTC
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2005-08-31

WOW, rarely does a story actually makes me want to post a comment but this article is ridiculous. The product has not been even put through to RTM and this guy is already making this sweeping pronouncements.

This article is a perfect example of people not being able to accept change.

I sincerely hope that Microsoft breaks every single paradigm from the start menu to the desktop to the files and folders metaphor. We need something new and fresh. We need systems that can handle the large amount of data that goes through our inboxes, rss feeds and phones. A system that quickly lets us see the important things in a glance not having to dig through virtual filing cabinets, folders and documents. The OLD WAY IS NOT CUTTING IT ANY MORE! No a single desktop environment has been able to get away from that clap trap paradigm. UGH!!!!

I hope that windows 8 is that first shift... just because a few morons cannot grasp new concepts, it should not hold the rest of us behind. They can keep their start menus for all I care.

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RE: Not again
by Luminair on Sun 17th Jun 2012 07:27 in reply to "Not again"
Luminair Member since:
2007-03-30

you hope? this article is about someone who walked the walk. he doesnt hope windows 8 is good, he knows it sucks. he hoped before he used it.

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RE[2]: Not again
by MollyC on Sun 17th Jun 2012 20:54 in reply to "RE: Not again"
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

No, this is about some guy that tried to use the old ways to use a new system. Rather than adopt the new ways, he fought the system to use the old ways. Also, the guy works for Zdnet - not excatly a Microsoft-friendly site.

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RE: Not again
by gregthecanuck on Sun 17th Jun 2012 07:29 in reply to "Not again"
gregthecanuck Member since:
2006-05-30

Hooray! Somebody here gets it!

This release of Windows 8 isn't intended for:
- geeks
- business users

That seems obvious, doesn't it?

Geeks are a small part of the overall market - and shrinking!

Businesses are slow adopters. Heck many are still on Windows XP/Server 2003. I just dealt with one the other day. Ugh.

Microsoft is going after the 90% consumer market. They need market share. They need an ecosystem where someone buys into the whole Windows 8/Xbox/Phone 8 ecosystem. It has to be consistent, have the same basic runtime support, etc...

I can't believe we have so many short-sighted commenters here. Remember how the iPhone was poo-pooed as a toy? Then the iPad?

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RE: Not again
by Dave_K on Sun 17th Jun 2012 12:47 in reply to "Not again"
Dave_K Member since:
2005-11-16

I sincerely hope that Microsoft breaks every single paradigm from the start menu to the desktop to the files and folders metaphor. We need something new and fresh.


Touch optimised phone/tablet interfaces with limited features aren't a particularly new and fresh idea. The iPhone was released over 5 years ago, and in all that time I don't think I've seen anyone clamouring to have its interface replace the GUI on their desktop PC.

We need systems that can handle the large amount of data that goes through our inboxes, rss feeds and phones.


How does a crippleware tablet GUI running space wasting full screen apps help people handle large amounts on data on their desktop PC?

A system that quickly lets us see the important things in a glance not having to dig through virtual filing cabinets, folders and documents.


What are you talking about? I don't need to dig through the file system to see my Twitter timeline, email inbox, online forums, RSS feeds, or any other things that I monitor regularly.

Existing apps can generally provide notifications, and if I want to see things at a glance on my Windows desktop then I can keep the windows open and arranged on screen.

In Metro I'm limited to one main app and another as a sidebar regardless of how much screen space I have to play with. On a tablet that's to be expected, on a desktop PC it's a huge step backward.

Of course the limitations of Metro are relatively minor when its just used to consume online information. It'd often be a productivity crippling disaster if it was used to replace the desktop for creative work.

Having multiple windows on screen is essential for my workflow, especially when working on DTP projects. I'm not "afraid of change" or "unable to grasp new concepts", I'm just able to see how much Metro would slow me down, and not content for my computer to be crippled.

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RE[2]: Not again
by MollyC on Sun 17th Jun 2012 20:56 in reply to "RE: Not again"
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

IF multiple windows is essential for your workflow, then use the desktop. What's your problem? And don't whine to me about the Start Menu, as that has nothing to do with whether there are multiple windows or not. Windows 8 provides an environment for multiple windows. I tire of those who pretend that it does not.

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RE: Not again
by MollyC on Sun 17th Jun 2012 20:52 in reply to "Not again"
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

I would agree with you, but it's not just a few morons, it's over half of the tech media, and they have the power to manipulate the public perception of a product. Which is why I'm am coming to the conclusion that Microsoft should bite the bullet, and add a setting to put back the Start Menu and allow booting straight to the desktop. The tech media will trash W8 to no end if they don't do that, and that trashing will indeed seep into the public conscience.

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