Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Jun 2012 00:10 UTC
Windows So, the Microsoft announcement - taking place as I write this, 01:45 in my timezone - turns out to be a bigger deal than expected. Microsoft just announced it's going full-on hardware - the company announced a new tablet called 'Surface', and boy, is this thing something to behold. Microsoft's hardware partners? They're not happy right now. Update: Here's Microsoft's official Surface site. I believe someone coined the phrase 'sexy as a succubus' in the comments about Vizio? Stealin' it! Update II: They aren't just taking the iPad head-on - this is a straight-up MacBook Air competitor.
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*yawn*
by Bit_Rapist on Tue 19th Jun 2012 01:07 UTC
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2005-11-13

the keyboard built into the cover is cool, everything else is kind of a *meh* moment for me.

This thing is 2 years behind the iPad, its basically rev A and the ecosystem for apps is nowhere compared to the competition. MS has a long road ahead of them with this thing.

I expect the first release of Windows 8 on this thing to suck. Think back to Windows 1.0 copying the Mac OS.

I also think MS is crazy to push Metro. It has failed on the smart phone - hello?!? - now they want to push this failed interface to tablets and windows itself ?

MS just fails to excite me in this day and age.

I mean seriously where is the innovation? All I saw was a clever keyboard the rest of it smacked of 'hey guys we can build a tablet too!'

Give me something redefining... something inspiring... this ain't it

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RE: *yawn*
by Nelson on Tue 19th Jun 2012 01:27 in reply to "*yawn*"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

"Where's the innovation? All I saw was innovation"

is basically what you said.

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RE: *yawn*
by Morgan on Tue 19th Jun 2012 05:24 in reply to "*yawn*"
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2005-06-29


I also think MS is crazy to push Metro. It has failed on the smart phone - hello?!?


How has it failed? Everyone I've shown my phone to -- and I'm not exaggerating, everyone -- has asked me where I got it, where they can get one, can they play with it, does it run X app or Y game (almost always a "yes", Zune Market has the good popular apps). And I'm not even showing it off; people see me use it and ask about it. It's had a resounding impact on those who have seen it, and it's not even the best WP7 hardware out there. Just seeing a very capable and easy to use version of MS Office bundled with the device has caused a few coworkers and clients to commit to buying one.

now they want to push this failed interface to tablets and windows itself ?


Tablets like the Surface are exactly where Metro belongs. I think the hardware is amazing, the design concepts are stunning, and the fact that x86 and ARM are both offered is a good decision by Microsoft.

I have to admit though, I'm going to approach this release with caution. I know I won't be buying one; my budget simply doesn't allow for such a huge expense for a device I'll rarely have time to use. There's a reason my fiancée has the iPad and I stick to my smartphone; I work all the time and something that big would just get in my way out in the field.

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RE[2]: *yawn*
by ncgmac on Tue 19th Jun 2012 12:51 in reply to "RE: *yawn*"
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Well I think you've hit on something that has been nagging at me. I think there is concern at Microsoft about the OEMs and competing Android systems by the same manufacturers. I think they know that Metro on the desktop or laptop just doesn't add a lot of value, though the under the covers stuff does. So they are coming out with this hardware to try and drive demand.

It does look cool, but price point will account for a lot. They can play some with that since they can load it with their software for basically nothing. It's not really a device I would purchase, but for folks that don't have tablets, or are Microsoft only, it's probably compelling. It will have a niche, how big will be a wait and see.

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RE[2]: *yawn*
by Bit_Rapist on Wed 20th Jun 2012 04:34 in reply to "RE: *yawn*"
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2005-11-13

I think one needs to look no further than the device sales and Nokia to see that while Metro has its fans, largely it has failed to attract real interest in the market.

As for tech geeks the moment I heard Windows Phone 7 has a 'registry' I was floored. Has Microsoft learned nothing over the years ? Whats next? Does it support OLE/COM/ActiveX component interfaces along with the .net framework? lol.

I began to loathe the registry after working with and supporting Windows over many years. The last thing I want is to deal with an abomination like that on my phone.

Metro itself I don't think is bad, I'm just not sure it offers a better way of doing things vs Android or iOS. It strikes me as being different for the sake of being different.

I am just amazed that the sales guy CEO was OK with throwing a low selling interface onto a flagship product that brings in a large portion of the company's revenue.

I'm just a dude on the Internet of course and maybe this thing will be an amazing success. I hope so for the simple fact that I have a lot of friends and family who make their living at Microsoft but myself personally ... I'm just not excited. Windows 7 excited me. This thing along with Windows 8 just feels like a few steps backwards.

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RE: *yawn*
by dsmogor on Tue 19th Jun 2012 08:11 in reply to "*yawn*"
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

I hate touch keyboards, royally useless and frustrating for any kind of serious work for me.
That makes me interested if MS managed to pull off tactile KB that thin and if they hold any patents on that. I'd kill for such a cover for my Note.

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RE[2]: *yawn*
by Lennie on Tue 19th Jun 2012 10:52 in reply to "RE: *yawn*"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

It is an interresting combination between previously existing ideas.

It isn't tactile as a normal keyboard, it doesn't have feedback, but it might be good enough.

I wonder if it would be useful for a phone too, it would have to be a non-floppy kind; A sturdy cover.

But why does the touchcover have a touchpad ?

The touchpad was and still is a hack, a workaround.

The screen isn't a touchscreen or what ?

Edited 2012-06-19 11:04 UTC

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