Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 18th Jun 2012 20:54 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless JLG (we can suffice with his initials on OSNews, right?): "Nokia, once the emperor of mobile phones, shipping more than 100 million devices per quarter, is now in a tailspin, probably irrecoverable, taking its employees into the ground. And there is Nokia's chosen partner, Microsoft. What will Nokia's failure do to its future? Ballmer knows Microsoft can't be relegated to a inconsequential role in the smartphone wars. Will this lead to Microsoft going 'vertical', that is buying Nokia's smartphone business and become an vertically player, as it already is in its Xbox business?" Microsoft will eventually buy Nokia's smartphone business. I mean, it's not as if they have any other serious WP7 OEMs they can piss off with such a move.
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bassbeast
Member since:
2007-11-11

I'm sorry but that is insane, its like saying Apple being one of the biggest sellers of tablets can control the farm tractor business. Its a classic "anyone but Microsoft" we've seen sadly too many times, where logic holds no sway. Look up the figures yourself, MSFT has NEVER held more than 5% of the mobile phone market EVER. if they bought Nokia tomorrow with such a huge amount of competition from the likes of Apple, HTC, and Samsung they would STILL hold less sway than any of the others so to suggest if MSFT does anything other than just roll over and die means its flexing monopoly powers is FUD, pure and simple.

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Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

bassbeast,

"I'm sorry but that is insane, its like saying Apple being one of the biggest sellers of tablets can control the farm tractor business."

Yes, that is insane, but then you aren't seriously trying to assert that's equivalent to what I said, are you?

Never the less I get the feeling many people don't realise how antitrust works. Let me speak hypothetically, just to make a point: IF apple were legally considered a tablet monopoly AND IF apple were using that monopoly to stifle the farm tractor business (*), then apple could be found to be abusing it's tablet monopoly REGARDLESS of it's farm tractor market share.

* The whole thing seems absurd, but we are speaking hypothetically here.

Or on the other hand...
http://www.appletractor.com

:)

"Look up the figures yourself, MSFT has NEVER held more than 5% of the mobile phone market EVER."

Has microsoft ever shipped any OEM phones or computers? If not, from my point of view you might as well say they hold 0% of the hardware market share, but that's not to say they have zero control over the market share of others.

Edited 2012-06-19 05:05 UTC

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No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

Correct. But buying Nokia, Microsoft will hold more than 30% of the mobile phone business, and having already used their patents offensively to leech money off Android, they no doubt will also use Nokia's patents in the same way (that is, after all, what they will buy). In other words, Microsoft will use their position to stagnate development in the mobile business.

This isn't about having some percentage of a market, it's about abusing a position to stop the competition. We all know that's what Microsoft's intention is.

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cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

It was once 30%. This days its much lower. A major chunk of that are dumbphones where WP is not going to win any points. The Smartphone-business of Nokia with its Lumia is below 2% market-share.

Why should Microsoft buy a dying Nokia if it can do the Smartphone hardware himself like they just did with the Surface tablet?

Edited 2012-06-21 08:37 UTC

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