Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 20th Jun 2012 18:38 UTC
Windows So, Windows Phone 7.5. I love it - warts and all. It has its issues, but it's so distinctive and fun it's pretty hard to not like it. So, for me, those three other people, and that cow, Microsoft today announced Windows Phone 8. It brings lots of cool new features, is built upon the Windows NT kernel and shares much of its lower levels with Windows 8, and oh, not a single current Windows Phone 7 device will be upgraded to it.
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Mixed feelings
by sukru on Wed 20th Jun 2012 19:37 UTC
sukru
Member since:
2006-11-19

I do not know how exactly to feel about this. On one hand, I still have my (free) HTC Titan, and it will receive one more (probably final) update. On the other hand, I'll be missing on Windows 8, especially the kernel.

My major concern is the app compatibility. If vendors mostly go C++ and DirectX, over C# and XNA, and ignore the current phones, I'll practically have a brick.

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RE: Mixed feelings
by vivainio on Wed 20th Jun 2012 19:40 in reply to "Mixed feelings"
vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

Only game devs will go over to directx; most apps will still be C# + XAML.

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RE[2]: Mixed feelings
by sukru on Wed 20th Jun 2012 20:04 in reply to "RE: Mixed feelings"
sukru Member since:
2006-11-19

Yes, this might be the more common scenario.

So now, you can develop in C++/DirectX and publish on Windows 7, Windows 8, Xbox 360, and WP8.

Or develop using C#/XNA and publish on Windows 7 (though no market), Xbox Indie Games, WP7, and WP8.

And for C++, you can probably port to OpenGL for PS3, Mac, iOS, and Android support as well.

So it makes more sense to code in C++ to target the maximum number of platforms.

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RE[2]: Mixed feelings
by ebasconp on Thu 21st Jun 2012 00:22 in reply to "RE: Mixed feelings"
ebasconp Member since:
2006-05-09

Actually using C# and XAML is far more attractive for devs than using Objective-C.

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RE[2]: Mixed feelings
by olafg on Fri 22nd Jun 2012 21:04 in reply to "RE: Mixed feelings"
olafg Member since:
2010-05-27

Not necessarily true. C++ allows you to write crossplatform on iOS, Android and WinPhone8 with an abstraction layer over OpenGL/Direct-X.

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RE[2]: Mixed feelings
by dsmogor on Sun 24th Jun 2012 16:52 in reply to "RE: Mixed feelings"
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

No trolling, just a question, haven't programming model for DX10/11 been radically changed? Doesn't it make commonalities potential between W8 and WP8 (which doesn't have GPUs beefy enough to support DX11 largely overstated?

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RE: Mixed feelings
by lordmorgul on Wed 20th Jun 2012 19:56 in reply to "Mixed feelings"
lordmorgul Member since:
2008-07-07

I gotta start meeting new people. Where do you guys get all those free phones? :-Þ

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RE[2]: Mixed feelings
by sukru on Wed 20th Jun 2012 20:00 in reply to "RE: Mixed feelings"
sukru Member since:
2006-11-19

It was from the "smoked by windows phone" campaign. They traded my old G2 for a Titan version. (Actually my G2 still had some trade in value, but not so much).

Microsoft seems to be desperate to get WP adoption. They also gave Lumia 800/900 free after rebate for new AT&T contracts.

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RE[2]: Mixed feelings
by Morgan on Thu 21st Jun 2012 16:09 in reply to "RE: Mixed feelings"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Mine was via amazonwireless.com. They have most of the leading phones for $0.01 with a new contract. I was going to switch to Sprint anyway, and I was trying to decide between the HTC Evo Shift and the Arrive with WP7. I liked the Shift but had been hoping the Nexus S was on the penny program; sadly it wasn't. So, given the opportunity to try out a completely new phone OS on hardware that was almost a twin of the Shift, I went for the Arrive.

I'm glad I did too, WP7 really is a great phone OS, and I have high hopes for WP8 when it's released. I'm not normally a Microsoft person at all, but having a phone that "just works" the same way Windows 7 does on my PC is a wonderful thing. I still use Arch Linux for serious work on the PC, but Win7 is great for those few Windows-only tasks that must be done.

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RE: Mixed feelings
by tomcat on Sat 23rd Jun 2012 17:30 in reply to "Mixed feelings"
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

I do not know how exactly to feel about this. On one hand, I still have my (free) HTC Titan, and it will receive one more (probably final) update. On the other hand, I'll be missing on Windows 8, especially the kernel.

My major concern is the app compatibility. If vendors mostly go C++ and DirectX, over C# and XNA, and ignore the current phones, I'll practically have a brick.


Comments like these make me wonder how long you think you're going to own that phone. On average people own their phones from 2-3 years. Youre probably a year into that contract. It will take time for MS to release WP8 and then for devs to write new appp, so youre really not looking at a long wait.

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