Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 20th Jun 2012 18:38 UTC
Windows So, Windows Phone 7.5. I love it - warts and all. It has its issues, but it's so distinctive and fun it's pretty hard to not like it. So, for me, those three other people, and that cow, Microsoft today announced Windows Phone 8. It brings lots of cool new features, is built upon the Windows NT kernel and shares much of its lower levels with Windows 8, and oh, not a single current Windows Phone 7 device will be upgraded to it.
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RE[3]: Mixed feelings
by Shane on Thu 21st Jun 2012 04:48 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Mixed feelings"
Shane
Member since:
2005-07-06

I guess developers didn't get that memo huh? Objective-C's adoption rate is off the charts:

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

Language is only a small part of the equation. The frameworks are what enable developers to build useful stuff. And Cocoa Touch is a solid, well thought out framework with years and years of iterative improvements behind it. That class NSObject from which everything inherits in Cocoa Touch? It goes back to the NeXTSTEP days. Apple's strength lies in relentless rounds of incremental additions and polish, and Cocoa Touch has had a major head start by now.

This latest move is a tacit admission by Microsoft that Apple got it right first time by building the iPhone's OS on top of OS X. Microsoft has lost a lot of momentum with their inability to get their inner fiefdoms to all row in the same direction. This is the last reset they can afford. Microsoft have their work cut out for them. Better start grinding.

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RE[4]: Mixed feelings
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 21st Jun 2012 06:13 in reply to "RE[3]: Mixed feelings"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I guess developers didn't get that memo huh? Objective-C's adoption rate is off the charts:


Yes, because popularity = quality.

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RE[5]: Mixed feelings
by Shane on Thu 21st Jun 2012 06:35 in reply to "RE[4]: Mixed feelings"
Shane Member since:
2005-07-06

Your point? ebasconp mentioned the word "attractive". How would you quantify "attractive"? If you have better stats to suggest, by all means, link us some.

After that maybe we could discuss the "quality" thing. Maybe you could tell us about your experiences with C# and Objective-C, and the merits of each. Then we could move on to the respective frameworks.

Or you could just keep firing clever one-liners.

Edited 2012-06-21 06:45 UTC

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