Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Jun 2012 00:10 UTC
Windows So, the Microsoft announcement - taking place as I write this, 01:45 in my timezone - turns out to be a bigger deal than expected. Microsoft just announced it's going full-on hardware - the company announced a new tablet called 'Surface', and boy, is this thing something to behold. Microsoft's hardware partners? They're not happy right now. Update: Here's Microsoft's official Surface site. I believe someone coined the phrase 'sexy as a succubus' in the comments about Vizio? Stealin' it! Update II: They aren't just taking the iPad head-on - this is a straight-up MacBook Air competitor.
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RE[8]: About Damn Time
by fmaxwell on Fri 22nd Jun 2012 11:15 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: About Damn Time"
fmaxwell
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2005-11-13

And I think that you should think about the Zune before sharing your unbridled money-can-achieve-anything attitude. Microsoft claimed that they were going to invest millions of dollars into their Zune to "beat" Apple's iPod. Yeah, tell me how that went for them.

The tablet market is not looking for a really tiny laptop with a bad keyboard. Anyone who thinks a keyboard (with almost zero tactile feel) is a killer feature has never watched how people use iPads most of the time -- and never considered how small a percentage of iPad owners bought keyboards of any type.

The Surface is ironically named, as Microsoft's is likely to remain underwater on the investment that they put into Surface.

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RE[9]: About Damn Time
by devnet on Fri 22nd Jun 2012 14:39 in reply to "RE[8]: About Damn Time"
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2007-01-16

and the Zune is/was a GREAT alternative.

The problem isn't the hardware OR the software. It's the attitude of people.

Apple sells a 'lifestyle' along with their products. it's a perceived image that you have to have their products to be cool.

Any other product isn't cool enough and makes you uncool. This is the real problem Microsoft has to beat.

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RE[10]: About Damn Time
by fmaxwell on Fri 22nd Jun 2012 18:52 in reply to "RE[9]: About Damn Time"
fmaxwell Member since:
2005-11-13

No, Apple sells a superior product. It's got nothing to do with "cool" or "lifestyle." I'm a 51 year old engineer. There's no product in the world, by any company, that is going to make me look cool or make people envious of my hip lifestyle.

The problem was the Zune hardware AND the software. The Zune was a second-rate product - re-skinned Toshiba Gigabeat to be specific. A 30GB iPod was 33% smaller by volume than the Zune, and more than 28% thinner. You could even go up to an 80GB iPod available at the same time and it was still smaller than the Zune. Next to an iPod, the Zune looked huge. It was also boxy and hideous in it's fecal brown color. The reviewer on techreport.com wrote "it's a deep, chocolate brown, but one whose color just about perfectly matches that of my morning bowel movement [...] it just sort of looks like, well, poo." The display was not flush with the case and its plastic was cheap looking. It paled in comparison with tight fit and finish of the iPod it purported to be competing against.

You'd think that all of that size and weight would net you better battery life than the thin, sleek iPod. You'd be wrong. You could start an 80GB iPod and a 30GB Zune playing a video. When the Zune's battery died, you could get out a second Zune and start playing video on that and that one would be discharged before the 80GB iPod was out of juice.

As to the software, consider the fact that every 30GB Zune in existence suddenly failed on December 31, 2008 and Microsoft's "fix" was to completely drain the battery, taking hours, and then restart it. Yes, I am serious.

That Steve Ballmer chose to describe it in ways that made Jerry Sandusky tingly didn't help:

"I want to squirt you a picture of my kids."

Really, Steve? That seemed like a good term to use for a wireless transfer of photos of children?

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