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Hardware, Embedded Systems Artificial intelligence is still a long way from delivering the human intelligence in robot form that has long been common in science fiction.
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RE[2]: AI definitions
by zima on Sun 24th Jun 2012 09:45 UTC in reply to "RE: AI definitions"
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When a computer can learn a new language like a 0-6 year old child can do. When you computer understands what you are doing. When a computer can drastically improve over time without a programmer. That is when you can call it intelligent IMO.

So virtually all primates cannot be called intelligent? (likewise cetaceans, cats, dogs, going through many tool-making & using birds, "down" to octopuses or even swarm intelligence of some insects)

It's a spectrum. And humans find it very hard to "drastically improve over time without a programmer" - there are enough cases of severely neglected children and effects of it, even some feral children (while most of such stories are made up, there are few rigorously documented ones, for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(feral_child) ).
IQ and fertility rate are inversely correlated ...might be also because of more focus each individual child can get, when there is less of them.

The computer characters in a game act dumber than dogs.

Well, when you mix some good (at being "realistic") deathmatch FPS bots with average human players, immediately telling them apart is not always so clear.

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RE[3]: AI definitions
by Fergy on Sun 24th Jun 2012 15:58 in reply to "RE[2]: AI definitions"
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2006-04-10

So virtually all primates cannot be called intelligent? (likewise cetaceans, cats, dogs, going through many tool-making & using birds, "down" to octopuses or even swarm intelligence of some insects)

I am simply saying what I would expect from an intelligent AI. I am not talking about other animals but I think birds act smarter than the smartest computer characters(and birds aren't that smart).

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RE[4]: AI definitions
by zima on Sun 24th Jun 2012 16:21 in reply to "RE[3]: AI definitions"
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2005-07-06

But why do you have such insanely high criteria with AI? Again, not even humans entirely measure up to all of those three there* ...NVM intelligent(?) animals.


* Plus, the first criterion arbitrarily demands from an AI to follow the same process of ~knowledge acquisition as humans - missing how the whole point of AI is inexpensive mass-production and distribution of it.
WRT 2nd - doesn't a mobile phone with auto switching of situation-based states understand what you're doing?... (within its area of expertise)

Edited 2012-06-24 16:36 UTC

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RE[4]: AI definitions
by Alfman on Sun 24th Jun 2012 17:30 in reply to "RE[3]: AI definitions"
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2011-01-28

Fergy,

"I am simply saying what I would expect from an intelligent AI. I am not talking about other animals but I think birds act smarter than the smartest computer characters(and birds aren't that smart)."

I think you're underestimating how accurately computers can simulate things - even to the point where you couldn't differentiate between the real and artificial intelligences. But the problem is the computer lacks a natural physical form and that's a dead give away for the AI. Normal people aren't accustomed to abstracting intelligent actions from their physical actors, but once you get used to doing that as we often do in CS, then you'll realise that most AIs are actually within reach.

Unfortunately technology isn't at a state where we can conceal supercomputers and their energy source within a natural body. While that's surely a disappointment to enthusiasts, the opposite is theoretically possible: taking real animal brains and wiring them up to a virtual, albeit limited environment. You could end up with real animals and AI animals interacting together and never suspecting that the other is different. We might even setup a scenario where a real animal has AI offspring, or visa versa.

Edited 2012-06-24 17:35 UTC

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