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Hardware, Embedded Systems Artificial intelligence is still a long way from delivering the human intelligence in robot form that has long been common in science fiction.
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AI and the I
by Janvl on Sun 24th Jun 2012 11:21 UTC
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Talking about artificial intelligence means that there supposedly is a non-artificial "intelligence".

Seeing the difficulties to define "intelligence" and to measure it (IQ) the whole discussion get to be very odd. Look at the IQ-tests on the internet, they are good for a laugh only, mostly being very language-specific or very specific for people from a certain social status. Those designing the IQ-tests know that it is extremely difficult to measure what you cannot define clearly.

We will see "machines" that can "learn" I am sure since we build more and more systems that adapt to he behaviour of the owner, but to gain conciousness will need a giant step in understanding what this is. And we, the human beings, have still not reached the point where we understand conciousness enough to simulate it.

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RE: AI and the I
by zima on Sun 24th Jun 2012 12:55 in reply to "AI and the I"
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Similar issues you mention with intelligence also apply to conciousness - recognizing it in the first place might be problematic (does mirror test do it? Or maybe other tests, or perhaps observations hinting at some theory of the mind in few animals?)

Meanwhile, we have quite poor grip on our own minds... (go through a list of cognitive biases; or consider that split-brain patients are virtually unchanged, basically just with some "glitches" - while we very much believe in monolithic me; or how modern neuroscience equipped with tools like fMRI casts some doubt at "free" will; or placebo, and how adamantly people can defend its results)

Perhaps we usually essentially believe in strong conciousness of other people (and limit it to people), also because of how we like to perceive ourselves (and contrast it with "lesser" life forms) ...however, who knows how many philosophical zombies are around us each day ;p
But seriously, most of the time we are in a bit "mindless" & automatisms-driven state, anyway (I suspect that's how being an animal largely feels like - just with rarer and smaller "awakenings", if any)

PS. And why does the ad in this OSNews story direct me to a local classified ads website, using a banner which mentions that you can find kittens there?... ;) (and depicting some - not sure if it'll work, but: )

Edited 2012-06-24 13:13 UTC

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