Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 25th Jun 2012 09:50 UTC
Microsoft I'm very thankful for Danny Sullivan writing this article, because it touches upon a subject I've increasingly been frustrated with: the inflation of the term 'hands-on'. Hands-on used to mean that a journalist, blogger, or reviewer got to properly use a device to get some sort of first impression, usually guided by some words from the manufacturer. These days, however, it seems as if even merely getting a glance at a device is regarded as a 'hands-on'.
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first drive = road test?
by gan17 on Mon 25th Jun 2012 11:22 UTC
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2008-06-03

It's been going on for years in motoring publications, to be fair. You'll see them taking out the latest Italian rustbucket on a track for a couple of hours, and (as long as it's a loud red or yellow) you'll see a 5 star rating at the bottom with stuff like "buy it now" or "that noise!!" or "bellissimo!!". Then people will go out and buy it and they'll find that the electrics fail every 1000km, the body work falls off, the switchgear goes all squidgy, and the air-conditioner is bollocks in tropical weather.

On the other hand, they'll spend an entire week or more driving the latest Japanese or German family saloon, but somehow having perfectly working air-conditioning, decent residual value and better reliability than the universe only equate to 2.5 stars, cos it doesn't have a Pininfererro badge on the side.

Completely normal journalism, in that regard.

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RE: first drive = road test?
by Soulbender on Mon 25th Jun 2012 11:33 in reply to "first drive = road test?"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Eh, that doesn't seem to be the exactly same.
At least they drive it around instead of just looking at it in the parking lot and listening to the sales pitch.

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RE: first drive = road test?
by Radio on Mon 25th Jun 2012 12:09 in reply to "first drive = road test?"
Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

Already a car analogy? *nervoustwitch*

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RE: first drive = road test?
by winter skies on Mon 25th Jun 2012 13:31 in reply to "first drive = road test?"
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2009-08-21

It's been going on for years in motoring publications, to be fair. You'll see them taking out the latest Italian rustbucket [...]


OT: If you're talking about Italian supercars, well, you're completely out of this world. They're not competing with German-engineered premium saloons or SUVs. If you're talking about Fiats and modern-day Alfas, they are not even sold in the US and they don't even always get enthusiastic reviews in their motherland. Not that they'd deserve them, anyway.
I can't really see where Italian production (concentrating mainly on the entry-level and exclusive luxury segments) can be compared to German production, excluding Porsche and some really expensive BMWs or Mercs, which can be considered Ferrari and Maserati competitors.
It's Pinifarina, not "Pininferro", BTW.
Anyway, I usually follow sites such as autoblog.com or jalopnik and I've never noticed what you're complaining about.

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mistersoft Member since:
2011-01-05

*pininfarina. sorry

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RE[2]: first drive = road test?
by zima on Wed 27th Jun 2012 17:26 in reply to "RE: first drive = road test?"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

It's Pinifarina, not "Pininferro", BTW.

"Pininfererro" - and I guess it was supposed to be a pun at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrero_SpA

I can't really see where Italian production (concentrating mainly on the entry-level and exclusive luxury segments) can be compared to German production

Are you sure you're not out of this world? There are plenty enough of lower-segments Opel and VW cars. Also SEAT and particularly Skoda, really. Not really worse than their family saloons, just smaller and more popular.

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