Linked by David Adams on Mon 25th Jun 2012 19:32 UTC, submitted by Adurbe
In the News The BBC reports on a Turing scholar's recent claims that by today's standard of evidence, there's reason to doubt the commonly-held belief that the famed computing pioneer committed suicide in response to government persecution over his homosexuality. To be clear, he does not claim to have disproved the suicide theory -- only that the cyanide poisoning that killed Turing could well have been an accident caused by his careless at-home experimentation with dangerous chemicals.
Thread beginning with comment 523866
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
RE: Time scale
by Alfman on Tue 26th Jun 2012 14:31 UTC in reply to "Time scale"
Member since:


"First, lets recap that most brilliant scientists do not get widespread recognition of their hard work on their life."

I agree, but I don't think the phenomenon is in any way restricted to science. This exact same recognition distribution bias occurs in art, acting, literature, news-reporting, politics, business, etc. It's just that we don't have the capacity to follow all the people who merit recognition, so we tend to over-credit a very small subset.

Who here recognises Michael Collins? Who else is he associated with? Take a pause to figure it out...

Ok, he was a co-pilot with Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong. The only guy I personally remembered by heart was Neil Armstrong. NASA had a backup team who were fully qualified, and eventually went in subsequent missions...hardly a peep in history - I don't recognise any. The NASA engineers who actually made the missions possible, nada.

Now this was a big public operation, but the same thing happens on a smaller scale in our everyday lives too, where a boss or leader may get both the recognition and reward for accomplishments technically achieved by others. That's just part of life, I guess.

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE[2]: Time scale
by acobar on Tue 26th Jun 2012 15:41 in reply to "RE: Time scale"
acobar Member since:

Indeed, it does happens on all humans activities like painting, sculpture, literature, architecture, engineering, medicine and so on, but I was talking specifically about very, very special beings that helped transform our world and got recognized as heroes by some of us. Turing already achieved that, even more because he as able flex his talent when the need was there.

We are like 7 billion now, and the number of people that lived is astonishing. There is no other way to pay the deserved respect and tribute to the memory of ours very best other than learning and teaching how human knowledge advances and foster the quality of our life.

Unluckily, there is no infinity memory.

Edited 2012-06-26 15:44 UTC

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE[3]: Time scale
by zima on Tue 26th Jun 2012 23:01 in reply to "RE[2]: Time scale"
zima Member since:

We are like 7 billion now, and the number of people that lived is astonishing. There is no other way to pay the deserved respect and tribute to the memory

Sometimes it seems like we don't really care that much about the dead... we just like to think we do
(quick, tell me something about your great-g-g-g-g-g-g-grandmother! The one from the side of your father, grandmother, great-grandmother, great-g-grandfather, 3g-grandfather, 4g-grandmother, 5g-grandmother, 6g-grandfather - something basic, like in which century did she live, on which continent, what language did she speak, how long did she live to the nearest decade; and that's a very recent ancestor)

The best / saddest is the popular myth "more of us live now than have ever lived" ...who cares about the likely 100+ billion dead homo sapiens.

Reply Parent Score: 2