Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 26th Jun 2012 19:50 UTC
Apple Benedict Evans: "How do you segment without fragmenting? Apple achieved this pretty easily with the iPod by varying the storage, but that wouldn't be meaningful for the iPhone. The cheap one has to run the apps, but people still have to have a reason to buy the expensive one. What you can do is vary the Apple supplied features, without varying the hardware and API platform that your third-party developers are targeting." Like I said: iOS 6 Starter, iOS6 Home, iOS 6 Professional, and iOS 6 Ultimate. Microsoft got blasted for confusing and arbitrary segmentation - rightfully so - but as usual, Apple gets a free pass when it does the exact same thing. At least Microsoft uses different names and forces OEMs to be clear about what they're shipping. I've said it before: I find calling all these different versions "iOS 6" without modifiers pretty scummy and misleading.
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RE: Versions
by karunko on Wed 27th Jun 2012 14:13 UTC in reply to "Versions"
karunko
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2008-10-28

Ca we now stop whining about there not being version numbers?

The point is that there is a version number, but it's hidden in the fine print at http://www.apple.com/ios/ios6/.

Call me picky, but for all intents and purposes the iPhone 3GS won't be really running the same OS as the 4S or its yet unannounced successor. Maybe you don't have a problem with it and that's fine, but talking about fragmentation versus segmentation seems like hair splitting to me.


RT.

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RE[2]: Versions
by ilovebeer on Wed 27th Jun 2012 15:05 in reply to "RE: Versions"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

" Ca we now stop whining about there not being version numbers?

The point is that there is a version number, but it's hidden in the fine print at http://www.apple.com/ios/ios6/.

Call me picky, but for all intents and purposes the iPhone 3GS won't be really running the same OS as the 4S or its yet unannounced successor. Maybe you don't have a problem with it and that's fine, but talking about fragmentation versus segmentation seems like hair splitting to me.
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Won't be running the same OS? So you think, then, that a 3GS will be running a different OS. Do you also think Windows 7 Ultimate is a different OS from Windows 7 Home? ........No, it is not a different OS, and neither is what a 3GS will be running.

Why is it people always go with extremes here over the rational and common sense?

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RE[3]: Versions
by karunko on Wed 27th Jun 2012 15:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Versions"
karunko Member since:
2008-10-28


Won't be running the same OS? So you think, then, that a 3GS will be running a different OS.

Does the owner of a 3GS get the same features? No.

Can a developer count on the same features being available across the devices supported by iOS 6? No.

That's the "for all intents and purposes" part that, apparently, went completely over your head.


RT.

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RE[2]: Versions
by toast88 on Wed 27th Jun 2012 19:09 in reply to "RE: Versions"
toast88 Member since:
2009-09-23

Call me picky, but for all intents and purposes the iPhone 3GS won't be really running the same OS as the 4S or its yet unannounced successor.


Yes, it does.

An operating system is defined through the APIs it is exposing and through the kernel it is using. All iPhones that are using iOS 6 run the *same* kernel and provide the *same* APIs.

It doesn't make it a different operating system when doesn't support some *user* features on certain platforms. It's the same with Windows 7, no matter what hardware it runs on, it is always the same kernel and APIs, although you won't be able to use certain features if the hardware doesn't support it.

Windows Phone 7.8 - on the other hand - is fundamentally different from Windows Phone 8. It uses a *different* set of APIs and a *different* kernel, hence it would be a blatant lie to have the old, Windows-CE-based WP and the new, NT-based WP using the *same* version number. Heck, they shouldn't even be using the *same* names, it's a completely different operating system.

@Thom:

Why are you linking such a non-sense article? From a website that calls itself *OS*news, I expect a minimum grasp of what the building blocks of an operating system are!

Adrian

Edited 2012-06-27 19:11 UTC

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RE[3]: Versions
by zima on Tue 3rd Jul 2012 23:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Versions"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

But OTOH, if you look at announcements from Apple, marketing, or product pages ...kernel and APIs are hardly present in them. The craze around new versions is all about user features (with small print WRT support across devices)

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