Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Jun 2012 20:27 UTC
Google So yeah, Google totally just won the conference showdown by easily beating both Apple and Microsoft. Not only did Google announce Android 4.1 with some really cool new features, a cheap but non-crippled tablet, and a new Android device called the Nexus Q, but they also opened up pre-orders for Google Glass. So yeah.
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kaiwai
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2005-07-06

Cellular connection on a tablet is stupid as long as one cannot buy an inexpensive data-only SIM card. Period.

Turning my smartphone into a wifi hotspot is the only sane way to keep all devices connected on the go.


I don't know about the United States but you can purchase data only sim cards here in New Zealand without any problems - buy one on prepaid or contract if you want and you're only charged for the data used. I would have thought given America's size and being the centre of information technology that carriers would be offering such a service.

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henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

"Cellular connection on a tablet is stupid as long as one cannot buy an inexpensive data-only SIM card. Period.


I don't know about the United States but you can purchase data only sim cards here in New Zealand without any problems
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UK too. I have a data only 30 day rolling contract SIM for my iPad from 3 mobile. 1GB of data for £7.50 per month. So, what, US$11? Can you seriously not get similar in the US? Other providers do similar deals, most are around £10 and the data amount and details vary. Heck, I can pick up a "pay as you go" SIM for £0.99 (or free) and so long as I follow the carrier rules for top ups, get 500mb of data free for circa £10 a month also.

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

UK too. I have a data only 30 day rolling contract SIM for my iPad from 3 mobile. 1GB of data for £7.50 per month. So, what, US$11? Can you seriously not get similar in the US? Other providers do similar deals, most are around £10 and the data amount and details vary. Heck, I can pick up a "pay as you go" SIM for £0.99 (or free) and so long as I follow the carrier rules for top ups, get 500mb of data free for circa £10 a month also.


Unfortunately Telecom NZ doesn't have a 1GB package but you can purchase a 2GB package for NZ$50 which works out to be £25 incl. GST (15%) or you can purchase 2 Degrees which has its own network in the CBD's but uses Vodafone's network outside the main centres which works out cheaper but you're charged a roaming rate when outside the main centres.

I can never work out the US system to be honest - most places I've visited they'll sell you a SIM, and it is up to you how you want to use it. I can't help but laugh when I hear Americans having to 'jail break' their iPhone just to get tethering that is considered a standard features on phones sold outside of the US.

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l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

I would have thought given America's size and being the centre of information technology that carriers would be offering such a service.


Note: a bit OT.

I also thought so, until two things happened, i). I wanted to buy a cheap but decent speed home net connection in the U.S. and ii). I wanted to buy a mobile (oh, sorry cell) phone in the U.S. In both cases I was laughing at first, then became a bit shocked, then after a while, just gave up searching for things that didn't exist. I mean come on, hilarious prices, plus in many cases a very low number of ISPs to choose from, also cell plans in most cases ridiculous (just see how and what they include and the associated prices, also look at roaming options and prices).

Additionally, now they're going backwards (at least from my European point of view) "introducing" traffic based capped monthly plans for broadband ;)

So yes, while in many things the U.S. is cool, broadband and cell plans and prices do not belong in that category.

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Note: a bit OT.

I also thought so, until two things happened, i). I wanted to buy a cheap but decent speed home net connection in the U.S. and ii). I wanted to buy a mobile (oh, sorry cell) phone in the U.S. In both cases I was laughing at first, then became a bit shocked, then after a while, just gave up searching for things that didn't exist. I mean come on, hilarious prices, plus in many cases a very low number of ISPs to choose from, also cell plans in most cases ridiculous (just see how and what they include and the associated prices, also look at roaming options and prices).

Additionally, now they're going backwards (at least from my European point of view) "introducing" traffic based capped monthly plans for broadband ;)

So yes, while in many things the U.S. is cool, broadband and cell plans and prices do not belong in that category.


The US mobile phone network is a joke - two incompatible technologies and charging customers who receive voice calls/text messages; if there is anything more f-ckedup than that I would love to hear about it.

As for traffic based capped monthly plans - we have it in NZ but that is due to the fact that 99% of data NZ users pull on is located outside of New Zealand, we have a small population and the cost of laying international cables is prohibitively expensive. Add to that the crappy backbone we have in NZ which is only just being addressed, the pricing mechanism is about the only thing left that can offset the crappy backbone and expensive nature of our international connection. As for why it is happening in the US - the media companies own the cable companies and they want to make sure that they can keep sucking money from the end users pocket by ensuring that they're dependent on the cable service for their entertainment needs rather than going for a bare cable internet and use something like netflix, hulu or some other service. By putting a price on traffic it restricts people thus any viewing of shows is pushed back onto their cable television service which is 'unmet red' by very profitable for the cable service.

Edited 2012-06-29 07:36 UTC

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