Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Jun 2012 20:27 UTC
Google So yeah, Google totally just won the conference showdown by easily beating both Apple and Microsoft. Not only did Google announce Android 4.1 with some really cool new features, a cheap but non-crippled tablet, and a new Android device called the Nexus Q, but they also opened up pre-orders for Google Glass. So yeah.
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RE[4]: Seriously?
by Nelson on Thu 28th Jun 2012 09:28 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Seriously?"
Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

The "glass vaporware" line shows how Nelson is a troll. If he really thinks it is just a headcam, he is stupid.

First of all, it was streaming its video feed through a normal G+ hangout. That shows a level of ability far above what is already available.


I'm sorry, can you point me to the fucking augmented reality demo? Oh wait, what happened? It doesnt exist? You mean its vaporware? Oh, right. Shut up then.

Also, the Glasses are tethered to smart phones. They have no wireless connectivity of their own, so the term mobile webcam is actually appropriate despite how much you try to play it up.

Second, Brin clearly said they did this whole little show-off because it was something easy to show. Project Glass is far more than that, but they can't show it on stage as easily ("maybe if we put a glass over a glass...", he joked).


We'll see. Until they actually do have something to show, that aspect is vaporware. However, it is apparently outlandish in your judgement for me to even begin to question Thom for claiming this is more significant than Apple/MS events.

Get. A. Grip.


Fourth, even if project Glass was just a streaming headcam, it would already be something significant. There is a good reason this kind of stuff has already been a science-fiction trope for a long time. Imagine reporters with Project Glass. Imagine protests were people wear Project Glass. There is so much potential. Good and bad (oh yeah, lots of goods and lots of bads). But this is the kind of stuff everybody always expected to come to be one day.

And it is within reach.


So at first you're vehemently opposed to me describing it as a glorified webcam and now you make excuses for it "well even if, its still good"

And I'm the troll? Riiiight,


The final nail in the coffin which contains Nelson's insight is that Glass "vaporware" will soon be in developpers'hands. Eh. Moron.


Some time next year , lacking features that were originally shown off like augmented reality. Its not the same product. Project Glass as announced is vaporware.

Im sorry it doesn't mesh with your warped views, actually, I'm not, too bad.

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RE[5]: Seriously?
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 28th Jun 2012 09:36 in reply to "RE[4]: Seriously?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

to question Thom for claiming this is more significant than Apple/MS events.


Apple: minor hardware updates+one big one, and iOS6 playing catch-up (to come in the Fall).

Microsoft: vapourware tablet nobody has seen in action, and Windows Phone 8 nobody will be able to use until they buy new hardware somewhere in the Fall.

Google: minor Android update with still some major new stuff (available in two weeks+now for attendees), new non-crippled tablet for *$199* (available in two weeks+now for attendees), new streaming device (available in two weeks (?)), and, oh, they're putting Glass up for pre-order.

Easy enough to see who won.

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RE[6]: Seriously?
by Nelson on Thu 28th Jun 2012 09:52 in reply to "RE[5]: Seriously?"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29


Apple: minor hardware updates+one big one, and iOS6 playing catch-up (to come in the Fall).


Oh come on, iOS is an absolutely massive upgrade compared to Android 4.1. Try to be objective.


Microsoft: vapourware tablet nobody has seen in action, and Windows Phone 8 nobody will be able to use until they buy new hardware somewhere in the Fall.


You disregard the entire Windows 8 OEM Computex showing, the Windows Azure redesign offering IaaS, and the Yammer acquisition for enterprise.

WP8 is definitely not vaporware, its just not out yet. It was shown running on devices in its entiriety. You have a confident release window, a feature set shown off in depth, etc

Same with Surface. Most journalists didn't get time on with Surface, but some did. Its more vapory than WP8 but I feel it has its feature set detailed and carved out.

The difference with Project Glass is that at first it was an augmented reality device which was really revolutionary. Now its a head mounted camera, with question mark specs, which may come out next year as a shadow of its former self. Oh, and its $1500 and only available to I/O attendees meaning General Availability is even further out.

Surface, Windows 8, and Windows Phone 8 will be out before the first Project Glass pre order is shipped.


Google: minor Android update with still some major new stuff (available in two weeks+now for attendees), new non-crippled tablet for *$199* (available in two weeks+now for attendees), new streaming device (available in two weeks (?)), and, oh, they're putting Glass up for pre-order.

Easy enough to see who won.


Major new stuff? That's a fucking stretch, considering how you just downplayed iOS6.

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RE[6]: Seriously?
by MollyC on Fri 29th Jun 2012 04:50 in reply to "RE[5]: Seriously?"
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

Personally, I don't think something can be considered "vaporware" the very day that it's announced, or else the term has almost no meaning. Let a product miss a few ship dates first. ;)

Edited 2012-06-29 05:02 UTC

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RE[5]: Seriously?
by Radio on Thu 28th Jun 2012 09:42 in reply to "RE[4]: Seriously?"
Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

So at first you're vehemently opposed to me describing it as a glorified webcam and now you make excuses for it "well even if, its still good"

And I'm the troll? Riiiight,

Yes, I am taking your dismissal, I show that it is already not as insignificant as you make it to be, and I add that it is going to do much more.

Get. A. Brain.

You know what is vaporware? Every single thing Microsoft showed during its own event.

OK, now I'm trolling...

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RE[6]: Seriously?
by Nelson on Thu 28th Jun 2012 09:57 in reply to "RE[5]: Seriously?"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

"So at first you're vehemently opposed to me describing it as a glorified webcam and now you make excuses for it "well even if, its still good"

And I'm the troll? Riiiight,

Yes, I am taking your dismissal, I show that it is already not as insignificant as you make it to be, and I add that it is going to do much more.

Get. A. Brain.

You know what is vaporware? Every single thing Microsoft showed during its own event.

OK, now I'm trolling...
"

Okay, enjoy your $1500 webcam.

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