Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Jun 2012 20:27 UTC
Google So yeah, Google totally just won the conference showdown by easily beating both Apple and Microsoft. Not only did Google announce Android 4.1 with some really cool new features, a cheap but non-crippled tablet, and a new Android device called the Nexus Q, but they also opened up pre-orders for Google Glass. So yeah.
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RE[7]: Seriously?
by JAlexoid on Thu 28th Jun 2012 11:07 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Seriously?"
JAlexoid
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2009-05-19

Oh come on, iOS is an absolutely massive upgrade compared to Android 4.1. Try to be objective.

Sorry, but if we compare it in the context of competition it is not a major update. If we take it in a vacuum - yes it's a major step for iOS.(Though iOS 5 was a bigger step forward) Is that objective enough?

Same with Surface. Most journalists didn't get time on with Surface, but some did. Its more vapory than WP8 but I feel it has its feature set detailed and carved out.

Compared to how Google Glass is presented, that you call vapourware, no one did have any time with Surface. Even Joshua Topolsky is saying that the "handlers" were yanking the devices out of journalists hands if they tried to actually use it.

And as I said before - you really have an issue with Android. Considering how much swearwords you use.

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RE[8]: Seriously?
by Nelson on Thu 28th Jun 2012 11:15 in reply to "RE[7]: Seriously?"
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Sorry, but if we compare it in the context of competition it is not a major update. If we take it in a vacuum - yes it's a major step for iOS.(Though iOS 5 was a bigger step forward) Is that objective enough?


Yes, that's what I would consider objective. I think it is dismissive to say "Androids event is bigger than Apples or Microsofts events" because each made great strides for their respective platforms.

No platform has exact feature parity with the other, other platforms prioritize different features above others, and roadmaps don't line up. So I think viewing the achievements in isolation is the best way to do it.

iOS6 is a monumental step forward in the context of iOS. They add a bunch of new features.

Windows Phone 8, again replaces the core of the OS with Windows 8 and underlying WinRT infrastructure. Adds a ton on top of that.

Before that there was Android 3.0 and 4.0 which were in their own right major upgrades.

There's Windows Phone Mango which added a crap load of features.

I mean, if we only view this through the lens of "compared to iOS" or "compared to Android" we're going to get a bunch of skewed results.


Compared to how Google Glass is presented, that you call vapourware, no one did have any time with Surface. Even Joshua Topolsky is saying that the "handlers" were yanking the devices out of journalists hands if they tried to actually use it.


I think its pretty comparable. Glass lacked the Augmented Reality features it was announced with. Surface had limited play time.

So while they were restricted in different fashions, the end result is largely the same.

Difference being the core thing powering Surface (Windows RT) has been detailed and shown off before. There's a lot more stability in Surface's ability to ship vs Project Glass.

Whereas Windows 8 shipping is an inevitability, and by extension Surface (they've quoted weeks after Win8 general availability, and they've been vague on prices to prevent a spiral to the bottom before launch), I think Project Glass is riskier.

First, again, consumers can't order these things. It's Google I/O attendees only. Second, its a shell of its former self.


And as I said before - you really have an issue with Android. Considering how much swearwords you use.


I have an issue with frustrating user experience. Android just seems to have a large concentration of it.

I can rant about Windows Phone's failings for pages if you let me.

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RE[9]: Seriously?
by JAlexoid on Thu 28th Jun 2012 11:21 in reply to "RE[8]: Seriously?"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

And I will agree on all points. Though I think Google is making active steps in showing that they want to release it. But Surface looks like a device that is more realistic in short term.

Thank you for not resorting to swearwords.

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