Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 29th Jun 2012 22:17 UTC
Legal I stopped following all the patent trolling in the mobile industry months ago because, you know, I have a life, but apparently some big ruling just got handed down in the United States: using three software patents, a patent troll from Cupertino has been given an injunction on Samsung's Galaxy Nexus, imposing a ban on the device. This patent trolling has to stop, blah, blah, we've all been here before. If you need me, I'll be over there on the sofa remembering the good old days when Cupertino was famous for great products, instead of infamous for its patent troll.
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And people still call Android free..
by Nelson on Fri 29th Jun 2012 22:23 UTC
Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

Until you factor in the fact that Samsung will now lose money because of this. All because Android is a legal minefield.

There is an Android tax. Here it is. Plain as day.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I'm Dutch. Android is perfectly free here as courts have reaffirmed a few times already by throwing out this Cupertino patent troll's claims.

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

This happened in the US. I don't get your point.

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shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

Thom,
Whiles I respect your POV I'm sorry, Android is not free.
Well, not to the likes of Samsung etc.
They have to pay Microsoft a tithe for every device they sell. That is not free IMHO.

What is worse is that in the battle between WinRT and Android tablets, the ONLY clear winner is Microsoft.
You either pay MS directly and use a WinRT device or you use an Android device and pay them indirectly.

IMHO that is a worse situation than the battles with Apple.

The Android makers could produce a design of H/W that does not infringe Apple's 'rounded corners' or other design patents (And some have done exactly that) but as it stands there is no way for an Android device maker to escape the MS Patent Tax.

Finally, my message to Microsoft, Google et al in the android camp and Apple in respect of these silly patents is 'A plague on all your houses'.

In this Tricentenary Year of the Newcomen Steam Engine the head honchos in those companies could do well to read the history of 'Boulton & Watt' vs Richard Trethivick and how he innovated to make their patents irrlevant. He also invented devices that made Steam Boilers safter that he deliberately didn't patent because they were vital to the future of steam power. I take my hat off(Brunel stove pipe naturally) to him.

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ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

Um, the Nexus is at end of life - we bought one a couple of months ago for $200 off. I thing Samsung has pretty much ridden that horse to market and back, but your concern for Samsung's healthy profit margins is commendable.

I loved Apple's statement - "It's no coincidence that Samsung's latest products look a lot like the iPhone and iPad, from the shape of the hardware to the user interface".

I wish in creating my old Treo Palm had thought of a rectangular shape, with rows of icons to launch apps, a settings page for configuring the device, and a web browser. How innovative Apple was in creating my iPad - they stood not on the shoulders of giants, but the base of the Grand Canyon! /sarcasm

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Um, the Nexus is at end of life - we bought one a couple of months ago for $200 off. I thing Samsung has pretty much ridden that horse to market and back, but your concern for Samsung's healthy profit margins is commendable.


Yes, however there's the legal costs they were wrapped up in. In multiple countries. All over the world.

Plus, please tell me you don't think that this is exclusively applicable to the Galaxy Nexus? The only reason the Nexus is specifically mentioned is because it is all that existed when this suit was filed.

They can easily extend it to other devices, as Apple has done in other places around the world.


I wish in creating my old Treo Palm had thought of a rectangular shape, with rows of icons to launch apps, a settings page for configuring the device, and a web browser. How innovative Apple was in creating my iPad - they stood not on the shoulders of giants, but the base of the Grand Canyon! /sarcasm


On the very front page of this website there's an article which praises Apple for their contribution to the smartphone market. Apple undoubtedly innovated in this area, and I think its pigheaded to simply brush aside those innovations.

They did most of the legwork for Android user interaction today, and as such, they deserve some credit.

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dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

Nexus is still the present Google flagship without any follower announced. It's also the only phone to carry 4.1 announced fluidness to the masses, and is uber important to developers, nevermind the bad publicity giving fuel claims to trolls that chose to compete in court instead free market.
So the injunction if it passes is very much a big hit to Google. Biggest to date.

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Lorin Member since:
2010-04-06

Until IOS can handle widgets, there is nothing similar to the user interface, as for icons,those have been around long before Jobs had his wet dreams of IOS or any of the "i" products

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

You could also call it an idiotic-patent-system tax.

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

All of this could be avoided if Google stepped up to the plate. If they hold that Apple's asserted patents are invalid, then present the proof.

Instead they sit idly by while OEMs take it from Apple.

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